S550 to '18-Refresh Component Compatibility

[Petroleum Jesus]

So, the pretext for this question is a bit long winded, so I will ask it first and follow with the reason.

Question:

What parts/components do you think will be cross compatible between the current S550 and the upcoming refresh?

Arduous, long explanation for asking:

So, I arrived a bit late to the S550 party, having acquired my GT-PP about a month ago. Since doing so, I have quickly found that the aftermarket is very strong in some areas and very weak in others.

Having spent a considerable time wrenching underneath my car already, and having a backround in Industrial design, fabrication and engineering, I consistently find myself conceptualising upgrades for my car.

Being a capitalist, it's in my nature to try and monetize those efforts. I would prefer to market my components to other enthusiasts like me. I'm not made of money, and cost effectiveness is key. However, this car is already toward the end of its production run.

This presents me with a problem. If I invest too much in the current model, and the components are not compatible with the next model, I'm far less likely to succeed in my efforts, or otherwise risk losing a boatload of cash.

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[dentalguy]

In my opinion, the 2018 refresh will probably be compatible with most things for the past few model years, with the exception of the updated panels. But, as the refreshed model hits the streets our cars will drop in value and younger purchasers will be buying the used, un-modified, mustangs people sell to upgrade to the 2018s. That means that there will still be a market for parts for this current gen. Also, if you design parts for this gen, it will be easier to make small modifications to production and update for future gens.

Sneaking my agenda in here, you should design some column mounted Lamborghini style paddle shifters for the automatic. I've toyed with the idea of doing this myself, but have no time. I would definitely be your first customer!

 

[EcoVert]

In my opinion, the 2018 refresh will probably be compatible with most things for the past few model years, with the exception of the updated panels. But, as the refreshed model hits the streets our cars will drop in value and younger purchasers will be buying the used, un-modified, mustangs people sell to upgrade to the 2018s. That means that there will still be a market for parts for this current gen. Also, if you design parts for this gen, it will be easier to make small modifications to production and update for future gens.

Sneaking my agenda in here, you should design some column mounted Lamborghini style paddle shifters for the automatic. I've toyed with the idea of doing this myself, but have no time. I would definitely be your first customer!

I agree with this I see it being a refresh like SN95 (1998)to the new edge SN95 (1999). Outward looking changes but the chassis won't change much. Everything on the chassis on the 2018 car will fit the 2015 though 2017.

 

[Petroleum Jesus]

In my opinion, the 2018 refresh will probably be compatible with most things for the past few model years, with the exception of the updated panels. But, as the refreshed model hits the streets our cars will drop in value and younger purchasers will be buying the used, un-modified, mustangs people sell to upgrade to the 2018s. That means that there will still be a market for parts for this current gen. Also, if you design parts for this gen, it will be easier to make small modifications to production and update for future gens.

Sneaking my agenda in here, you should design some column mounted Lamborghini style paddle shifters for the automatic. I've toyed with the idea of doing this myself, but have no time. I would definitely be your first customer!

The problem with second buyers is they are less likely to have the means for premium quality mods. Another issue, one specific to the components I'm looking at, is that most are at least somewhat attached to the body.

This makes me think that perhaps the solution is to make these components modular. Not only will it allow economically scalability for different cost demographics, but also for l revised geometry when the new bodystyle comes.

 

[HappySquirrel]

The problem with second buyers is they are less likely to have the means for premium quality mods. Another issue, one specific to the components I'm looking at, is that most are at least somewhat attached to the body.

This makes me think that perhaps the solution is to make these components modular. Not only will it allow economically scalability for different cost demographics, but also for l revised geometry when the new bodystyle comes.

I guess I don't know what you mean by premium quality mods, but generally speaking I disagree with this statement. I see lots of people who buy used performance vehicles and sink every spare dollar they have into upgrades.

I don't really understand what you mean by going modular, unless you're referring to something along the lines of a bodykit that you could buy in pieces if you want. But I fail to see how that would help with compatibility on a 2018, unless you're thinking that a bodykit could be used except for the front pieces if Ford only changes the front bumper on the 2018, for example. No matter what, if you're thinking about compatibility for exterior mods on 2018+ Mustangs you're simply going to have to wait for the reveal (or at least some leaked pictures). Asking us is pretty pointless, as all we can offer is speculation.

 

[PatrickGT]

Since this is a refresh and not a new model it's pretty safe to say that hard points won't change terribly.

 

[Petroleum Jesus]

I guess I don't know what you mean by premium quality mods, but generally speaking I disagree with this statement. I see lots of people who buy used performance vehicles and sink every spare dollar they have into upgrades.

I don't really understand what you mean by going modular, unless you're referring to something along the lines of a bodykit that you could buy in pieces if you want. But I fail to see how that would help with compatibility on a 2018, unless you're thinking that a bodykit could be used except for the front pieces if Ford only changes the front bumper on the 2018, for example. No matter what, if you're thinking about compatibility for exterior mods on 2018+ Mustangs you're simply going to have to wait for the reveal (or at least some leaked pictures). Asking us is pretty pointless, as all we can offer is speculation.

I'm not referring to fascias, but rather aerodynamic assemblies that mate with body surfaces such as vents, diffusers, etc. By modular, I mean that a majority of an assembly could mount to hard points of a car with only the body elements made to fit the bodystyle.

 

[minjitta]

V6 2.7L 375 HP EcoBoost
V6 3.5L 420 HP EcoBoost
V8 5.0 DI 465 HP
AT 10 spd

 

[HappySquirrel]

V6 2.7L 375 HP EcoBoost
V6 3.5L 420 HP EcoBoost
V8 5.0 DI 465 HP
AT 10 spd

LOL. Speaking of speculation...

 

[GTBOB]

What? No Powerstroke?? Lame...

 

[c-rizzle]

V6 2.7L 375 HP EcoBoost
V6 3.5L 420 HP EcoBoost
V8 5.0 DI 465 HP
AT 10 spd

You must have some good crack.

If they put the 3.5L Ecoboost in they'd drop the 5.0L, too much overlap for a Mustang. This isn't F150 volume or F150 where you need the variety for a variety of work loads, towing, etc.

In fact, thats why the V6 will be probably be dropped.

2 engine choices:
i4 Ecoboost... 325hp.. maybe a little closer to the Focus RS's 350 hp.
V8 minor bump to maybe 450+- hp

10 speed Auto.

 

[LETHAL]

LOL. Speaking of speculation...

That is dreaming....

One near 400 and two over 400hp options...not happening.

 

[Macfarland]

I agree with this I see it being a refresh like SN95 (1998)to the new edge SN95 (1999). Outward looking changes but the chassis won't change much. Everything on the chassis on the 2018 car will fit the 2015 though 2017.

I honestly don't think it will be a refresh that big. The 1999 although it had the same interior, all of the outside panels were new except the roof. Also, by the 1999 refresh, the SN95 was 5 years old. The S550 is only 3 years old. My take is that the refresh is going to be more like the '12 to '13 and of course the 10 speed auto and maybe just maybe a modest increase in HP. Remember that the Mustang is outselling the new Camaro by a wide margin, so Ford is in no rush to make big changes for the 2018.

 

[FordBlueHeart]

I honestly don't think it will be a refresh that big. The 1999 although it had the same interior, all of the outside panels were new except the roof. Also, by the 1999 refresh, the SN95 was 5 years old. The S550 is only 3 years old. My take is that the refresh is going to be more like the '12 to '13 and of course the 10 speed auto and maybe just maybe a modest increase in HP. Remember that the Mustang is outselling the new Camaro by a wide margin, so Ford is in no rush to make big changes for the 2018.

Different times. Different management. Different financial position for Ford. Different state of economic factors in the car business. I'm not saying your predictions will be wrong, but it will not be because of how or what happened in 1999 or 2010-11 for that matter.

 

[Chad11491]

I think it will mainly be power and some interior upgrades like the B&O stereo and some styling they'll rip from the gt350 just like the 13 did. It doesn't make sense for them to do a complete refresh on a brand new chassis and then do another new one in another 2-3 years.

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