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S mode on shifter vs s+ drive mode or both

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I'll toss my observations into the mix. I've been driving my car almost exclusively in Sport+ mode with the toggle switch and the gearshift in D. The other day I read on the forums that with the gearshift in S it noted for quicker acceleration so I decided to try it. Well, I didn't notice quicker acceleration but I did notice that the shifts are MUCH smoother with the gearshift in S vs D which I think is opposite of what you'd expect. In D, the shifts are MUCH sharper, much more pronounced while in Sport+ mode. Still loving this car!
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2019 5.0 here. No mag ride or active exhaust.
I agree ford should just have D with the toggles. Doesn’t seem to make sense to have it in D then choose track/sport + however maybe D and S in the shifter is over rode by selecting on of the toggle options. That I’m not sure on.
Typically I ride in S however I think for me car it’s just acceleration and shift differences as I don’t have active exhaust or the mag ride. So I’m thinking Sport and Sport + would elicit the same exact result on my car.
 

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You'll easily rev past 7 revinto7, read this lot and learn something....



The 10-speed automatic transmission with SelectShift capability
gives drivers a choice between fully automatic or clutchless drivercontrolled
shifting.
Three overdrive gears and a wide 7.4:1 gear ratio span
Integrated torque converter/turbine clutch helps reduce weight,
while also reducing the packaging size of the transmission
High-speed one-way clutch helps deliver smooth and
responsive shifting
Engine rpm matching on coast-down shifts provides a seamless
transition to lower gears — effective when cornering
Synchronizes clutches to help eliminate grinding
Ultra-low viscosity transmission fluid and off-axis variabledisplacement
pump maximize transmission performance
Skip Shift feature utilizes real-time adaptive shift schedule
algorithms which monitor more than a dozen powertrain- and
driver-control signals to help ensure the transmission is in the
right gear at the right time
Sport mode
Drag mode
Designed to produce maximum acceleration
Shifts closer to redline, removes inertia phase in shifting and increases clutch pressure for extra “push"
Not intended for cold, wet or slippery conditions; see owner's manual for more information
Track use only
Includes Remote Start System on EcoBoost 101A and above
Sport Mode
Allows the driver to manually upshift or downshift the transmission without using a clutch
Engaged by moving the shifter to the Sport (S) position
Gear selection is shown in the instrument cluster
Engine-speed matching helps provide fast and smooth downshifts
Includes Second-Gear Start mode
When engaged, the vehicle will start off from a stop in second gear instead of first
There is much less torque output starting out in second gear, helping provide enhanced traction while driving in slippery conditions
Sport mode disables Overdrive Cancel and Grade Assist modes
To prevent the engine from running at too low an rpm, the transmission may automatically make some downshifts
Although downshifts may automatically take place, it will allow the driver to downshift at any time as long as the engine will not be
damaged from over-revving
After the transmission is placed in Sport mode with SelectShift, the vehicle will remain in this mode until the gearshift lever is moved from
Sport (S) back to Drive (D)
Engine damage may occur if excessive engine revving is held without shifting
Offers an aggressive shift pattern, allowing the engine to rev higher during acceleration and holding lower gears longer to support spirited
driving
Paddle Shifter Activation
Allows the driver to shift gears quickly while keeping both hands on the steering wheel
To manually upshift, pull the + paddle located on the right side of the steering wheel
To manually downshift, pull the — paddle located on the left side of the steering wheel
The SelectShift feature is always “live in drive,” meaning the driver is not required to engage Sport mode by moving the shifter to the Sport
(S) position to operate the paddle shifters
2018 Mustang
10-speed Automatic Transmission with
SelectShift Capability
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MAKE THE POINT: Smarter Shift Logic
Customers may notice that the Mustang does not always shift sequentially. For example, the indicator gauge may change from
displaying 1st to displaying 3rd. This is because of the Skip Shift logic with real-time-adaptive shift-scheduling algorithms which
monitor more than a dozen powertrain- and driver-control signals to ensure the right gear at the right time.


Drive Modes Explained
Normal – Best suited for everyday driving. If your vehicle is equipped with adaptive dampers, the suspension delivers a balanced
combination of comfort and handling. Selectable steering defaults to Normal but can be changed using the steering button
Sport – Engages when you shift your automatic transmission into Sport (S). Sport mode increases throttle response and helps your vehicle
accelerate faster, but does not change the vehicle dynamics or stability system
Sport + – Best suited for spirited driving. This mode increases throttle response, and if your vehicle is equipped with active valve
performance exhaust, it takes on a more powerful tone. If your vehicle is equipped with adaptive dampers, the suspension becomes stiffer.
This mode has less body motion and more precise steering. Selectable steering defaults to Sport but can be changed using the steering
button
Track – Provides a performance driving experience. Throttle response increases, and if your vehicle is equipped with active valve
performance exhaust, it takes on a more powerful tone. A performance-oriented traction control mode is automatically utilized. In this mode,
traction control intervention is reduced and tuned specifically for track usage only. This mode is not intended for public roads. If your vehicle
is equipped with adaptive dampers, the suspension is optimized for transient handling maneuvers. This mode offers maximum control and
confidence in handling on road courses or auto-cross style events. Selectable steering defaults to Sport but can be changed using the
steering button
Drag – Provides a performance driving experience tailored to driving on a drag strip. The engine responds directly to your inputs, and if your
vehicle is equipped with active valve performance exhaust, it takes on a more powerful tone. This mode is not intended for public roads. If
your vehicle is equipped with adaptive dampers, the setting is optimized for straight line maximum acceleration. Selectable steering defaults
to Sport but can be changed using the steering button
Snow/Wet – Provides a confident handling driving experience during poor weather. If your vehicle is equipped with adaptive dampers, the
suspension delivers a balanced combination of comfort and handling. Selectable steering defaults to Normal but can be changed using the
steering button
Using MyMode (If Equipped)
You can use MyMode to create a unique Drive Mode. To create MyMode, press the Pony button on the steering wheel and access the menu.
The available systems are displayed. Select your desired settings using the appropriate buttons and menus. Press and hold OK to save your
settings. MyMode is added to the Drive Mode list and can be selected the next time you drive your vehicle.
MAKE THE POINT: Steering Effort
Steering effort is part of the Selectable Drive Modes. Depending on the Drive Mode selected, the steering effort will match that
particular setting. For customers who would like a different steering setting than the predetermined setting, they can select any one of
the four steering modes after the Drive Mode has been selected. For example, the Drive Mode can be set to Sport+ and the steering
mode can then be set to Normal.
NOTE: The system has diagnostic checks that continuously monitor the system to make sure it operates properly. If a mode is unavailable due to a system
fault or change in gear position, the selected mode defaults to Normal.

I have one quick question, my car is S mode would shift fine at Wide Open Throttle before my VMP tune and now it seems like it will hit the limiter pause and the. shift as if it wanted me to shift and since i didnt it said F it ill shift it then. Car when i manual shift in D or S its fine. Would i have to change something in the Drive Mode button to get it to go back to it shifting like before? not sure whats going on there.
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