PPR001

[DrumReaper]

A 2020 R with over 8K miles? That is a lot of miles...

It’s a tooling trial.

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[TxGT350-52]

It’s a tooling trial.

ok, thanks. Did not know what the TT meant.

 

[DrumReaper]

ok, thanks. Did not know what the TT meant.

No worries. It’s probably been shown here and there, tested this way and that way... so, I’d expect some miles on it.

 

[Tomster]

TT cars are usually destroyed. I wonder how the heck that one got out.

It looks legit. Here is the sticker.

Edited to add:
I would buy the TT car over the PP car. PPs are sold to the public. TTs are generally not. If it is determined that this is an actual TT car, it would be extremely rare. One thing that bothers me about the PP car is that I don't recall seeing PPR before. Usually its just PP whether its an R or not.

Anybody can fake a chassis plate, but the window sticker doesn't say special order. For GT500 production, I thought the TT cars had a blue sticker, not red, so I would do my homework on the TT car and determine what it is before buying it.

 

[Johnnydarkgt350]

TT cars are usually destroyed. I wonder how the heck that one got out.

It looks legit. Here is the sticker.

Edited to add:
I would buy the TT car over the PP car. PPs are sold to the public. TTs are generally not. If it is determined that this is an actual TT car, it would be extremely rare. One thing that bothers me about the PP car is that I don't recall seeing PPR before. Usually its just PP whether its an R or not.

Anybody can fake a chassis plate, but the window sticker doesn't say special order. For GT500 production, I thought the TT cars had a blue sticker, not red, so I would do my homework on the TT car and determine what it is before buying it.

Tom , what I’ve found is that “ PP” cars all have a 2” in the twelve digit and not a 5” ; these both have normal production VIN’s

 

[Tomster]

Tom , what I’ve found is that “ PP” cars all have a 2” in the twelve digit and not a 5” ; these both have normal production VIN’s

I know you have a thing for the PP cars, but if I were you, I be pursuing a (probably) once in a lifetime collector. If that is indeed a TT, somebody at Ford made a big mistake and you may not ever see another in 2020. Mistakes do happen and I believe there is one other TT car that got out a while ago. I would do my due diligence and try to grab it. If my garage wasn't full and we were not in uncertain times, I would be on it. That car should have been destroyed.

 

[sox3]

I have to agree with @Tomster about this looking like a very rare car. I noticed the Build date is May 20, 2019.

 

[Tomster]

I have to agree with @Tomster about this looking like a very rare car. I noticed the Build date is May 20, 2019.

Although the car has a lot of miles, it is extremely rare. I spoke with the oracle yesterday and was told that he was only aware of one TT ever making it out of Ford, and that was back in the Boss 302 days. This car was probably built to test the differences in the 2020 upgrades (steering, knuckle, etc).

I would not buy this car to drive. I would buy this as a collector. It is an example of a rare and impossible to acquire car.

 

[PP0001]

Tom , what I’ve found is that “ PP” cars all have a 2” in the twelve digit and not a 5” ; these both have normal production VIN’s

Based on my experience your assumption is clearly not correct.

As an example if we reflect back some 10 years (September/October 2010) to the 2012 Boss 302 cars the VIN series for the 12 Pilot Production cars that were built these cars had a VIN series assigned to those cars of "199XXX".

Back then Ford built 12 TT, 12 PP and 44 MP 2012 Boss 302's and have a Window Sticker for each of them all of which had a VIN series of "199XXX" assigned to them.

Ford then launched the 2016 pre-production GT350/R's as is the case with your early car PP car with Ford assigning a separate VIN series for this new model and assigned a VIN series of "200XXX" with PP001 having a VIN ending in "200165".

Once a pre-production VIN series runs out numbers a new series of numbers has to be launched case in point with "PP001" which is a 2018 GT350 with that vehicle having a VIN ending in "500015" therefore a new pre-production VIN series was launched by Ford in early 2017 for the 2018 GT350/R's.

With the launch of the 2020 GT350/R's pre-production cars it was obvious that Ford assigned a VIN series namely "549XXX" with chassis number TT005 having a VIN ending in "549988" and chassis number PPR001 having a VIN ending in "549995".

Based on only 6 VIN numbers separating TT005 to PPR001 (which is the next build progression from TT to PP) it might be suggested that there were only 11 TT cars built for the 2020 GT350/R's?

To be clear the two 2020 R's listed above do not have normal VIN's and that all PP cars do not have a "2" in the twelve digit.

 

[Johnnydarkgt350]

Based on my experience your assumption is clearly not correct.

As an example if we reflect back some 10 years (September/October 2010) to the 2012 Boss 302 cars the VIN series for the 12 Pilot Production cars that were built these cars had a VIN series assigned to those cars of "199XXX".

Back then Ford built 12 TT, 12 PP and 44 MP 2012 Boss 302's and have a Window Sticker for each of them all of which had a VIN series of "199XXX" assigned to them.

Ford then launched the 2016 pre-production GT350/R's as is the case with your early car PP car with Ford assigning a separate VIN series for this new model and assigned a VIN series of "200XXX" with PP001 having a VIN ending in "200165".

Once a pre-production VIN series runs out numbers a new series of numbers has to be launched case in point with "PP001" which is a 2018 GT350 with that vehicle having a VIN ending in "500015" therefore a new pre-production VIN series was launched by Ford in early 2017 for the 2018 GT350/R's.

With the launch of the 2020 GT350/R's pre-production cars it was obvious that Ford assigned a VIN series namely "549XXX" with chassis number TT005 having a VIN ending in "549988" and chassis number PPR001 having a VIN ending in "549995".

Based on only 6 VIN numbers separating TT005 to PPR001 (which is the next build progression from TT to PP) it might be suggested that there were only 11 TT cars built for the 2020 GT350/R's?

To be clear the two 2020 R's listed above do not have normal VIN's and that all PP cars do not have a "2" in the twelve digit.

Thanks as I wondered as to the new builds only having the 2” for the twelve digit and changes / model years not needing the 2” . So mentioning it would bring out the experts and more info for clarification! Of course Harry and Tom are right on the ball with insight! ( PS Tom I have my new 1640 Pelican case with foam in it already for $168 to my door including tax and shipping but my wheel is still holding air perfectly so I will do it a little later in the season and get my carbon fiber wheel repaired. Frank at Spyder Composites said “$600-800 and a week turnaround “) ; and Harry we are Trying to figure out away and get a trailer to tow from North Idaho down to Tucson for the MCA Mustang Meet in October and park right next to you.

 

[PP0001]

Thanks as I wondered as to the new builds only having the 2” for the twelve digit and changes / model years not needing the 2” . So mentioning it would bring out the experts and more info for clarification! Of course Harry and Tom are right on the ball with insight! ( PS Tom I have my new 1640 Pelican case with foam in it already for $168 to my door including tax and shipping but my wheel is still holding air perfectly so I will do it a little later in the season and get my carbon fiber wheel repaired. Frank at Spyder Composites said “$600-800 and a week turnaround “) ; and Harry we are Trying to figure out away and get a trailer to tow from North Idaho down to Tucson for the MCA Mustang Meet in October and park right next to you.

Jim, that would be outstanding as I am hoping to take my 2018 Base R model along with my 2020 HEP R to Tucson but is still a little ways away for confirming all that.

I have many people that are planning to come from S.C. and Georgia for this event and looking forward to seeing them again and if you could make it with PP005 that would be terrific!

 

[Tomster]

somebody who appreciates mustang history needs to buy that TT car.

Once in a lifetime.....

 

[DrumReaper]

I would but honestly, I want to drive and track my car.
If currency were no object, I’d be on it.

 

[PP0001]

I have to agree with @Tomster about this looking like a very rare car. I noticed the Build date is May 20, 2019.

Based on the information that I have been provided with "PPR001" was built on August 1st, 2019 with "TT005" being built on May 23rd, 2019.

 

[BadKarma!]

Has anyone spoken to the dealer? I would love to hear the back story on how they got their hands on these two special cars.

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