PP vs Non-PP

[wildsailor]

Not a lot of canyon carvers in here apparently.

Canyons? I drove through a ditch once. . .

Kidding aside, pretty boring roads here in Michigan except for some areas of the Upper Peninsula. Even then they go back and forth more than up and down and not too many switchbacks if there are any at all! :(

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[Marino]

Of course we can agree on that. I think what people are trying to say though is that the base brakes are pretty darn good for what they use their car for so the 'better' part isn't something they value. That is why these are an option; if you want them they are there for you. Keep in mind the base brakes that are considered so inadequate still need ABS to keep from locking the wheels up so better brakes are not really better with occasional hard stops. What you will find is the larger rotors/dual piston brakes are better at repeated hard stops where the base brakes will fade sooner. But for non-track daily driver stuff they are still very good brakes. I am not sure the dual piston brakes on the EBPP are even adequate for real track use. The four piston GTPP brakes are even better yet for repeating heavy stops. If you are going to race your EB Mustang you will need a brake upgrade regardless of PP or not.

The EBPP comes with 4 piston brakes. The GTPP comes with 6 piston brakes.

 

[wildsailor]

The EBPP comes with 4 piston brakes. The GTPP comes with 6 piston brakes.

You are correct; I misspoke. Thanks for that so others are not confused.

 

[Todd15Fastback]

Not a lot of canyon carvers in here apparently.

I am one. Living in GA we have some awesome mountain roads to drive.

 

[Shanghai Dan]

Not a lot of canyon carvers in here apparently.

I take a few hot passes through the Santa Monica mountains every once in a while, and have yet to experience brake fade. Of course, I do keep the speed to the point where I stay in my lane (too many blind corners), and the brakes seem to handle it quite well.

If I was autocrossing regularly, the PP would have been a no-brainer; but with good daily driving, and occasional use in the canyons, I have zero concerns with the "stock" brakes. They're more than strong enough to lock up the wheels, causing the ABS to kick in.

 

[Impulsed7]

i'll throw a video up after my first track day in my eco PP, and you'll laugh at how inadequate the multi piston brakes are. Time and time again, I have said its not the size of the rotors, or how many pistons you have, its the pad compound and brake cooling.

Since there aren't pad upgrades for the eco yet, I have a very bad feeling about how crappy my brakes will be at the track. For example, my 2800lb m3 had rotora 6 piston fronts, and 4 piston rears with street pads and after 3 laps, they were toast. Too hot on the front straight, and pad deposites on the rotors so badly the steering wheel tried to break my wrists.

Also, if you are going so fast in some canyons as to overheat the stock single piston brakes, you are wrong, so wrong... Take it where that stuff belongs, the track.

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