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Appears to be? Doesn't sound very factual to me.

Had my paint thickness measured and all steel panels were consistently averaging 150 microns. Aluminium panels a bit less but they have a different paint system. Detailer who put Ceramic Pro on my car said the paint was very healthy and had very little correction required.
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There is no "cheaping out on the paint". All vehicles are painted using the same process, and paint quality and thickness are carefully monitored. There is no formula for saving cost by changing the paint process, any changes would cost more to implement than the amount that they would save. Rarely does a car get through the paint process with the paint being too thin, and when that does happen it will only affect one area, which is obvious.

Stop blaming the car on damage caused by the environment you're driving in. The best paint in the world will still get damaged by rock chips flying at the body panels at high speed. Also, lower cars like the Mustang are more susceptible than vehicles that sit higher off the ground like SUVs and trucks.
Like I mentioned, Ford already admitted fault and painted the trunk because of the terrible paint job. I have owned 10+ cars and this is my third mustang - my other two were lowered two inches, this one only 1 inch. The reason I'm posting this on the forum is to find out if other people ate having the same issues, or if mine is an isolated problem. I've lived in the same area my whole life, and most of my cars were kept outside - but this one is always garaged. I've taken care of this car like it's my third baby (my wife tells at me sometimes for it!). It's very frustrating to go through this, and no, it's not "user error". Like RT said, there are no gravel roads in my area and I've had the same commute for years. For a car that is 10 months old with 4,600 miles this is ridiculous, almost as ridiculous as you defending Ford on this one.
 

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Appears to be? Doesn't sound very factual to me.

Had my paint thickness measured and all steel panels were consistently averaging 150 microns. Aluminium panels a bit less but they have a different paint system. Detailer who put Ceramic Pro on my car said the paint was very healthy and had very little correction required.
You are correct that I have no way of measuring it, nor would I know what normal would be. so I just have to go by visual comparison and based on that observation I can conclude that the paint does appear to be thinner/cheaper quality than my previous cars. I only have my observations. It is funny however you mention the paint on the aluminum (at least I believe the hood is aluminum) is thinner because that is where my chips are at so maybe my observation skills are better than you think.
 

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21k here and speckled with chips........ and now I have the dreaded bubbling on my 13 exploder
 

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Like I mentioned, Ford already admitted fault and painted the trunk because of the terrible paint job. I have owned 10+ cars and this is my third mustang - my other two were lowered two inches, this one only 1 inch. The reason I'm posting this on the forum is to find out if other people ate having the same issues, or if mine is an isolated problem. I've lived in the same area my whole life, and most of my cars were kept outside - but this one is always garaged. I've taken care of this car like it's my third baby (my wife tells at me sometimes for it!). It's very frustrating to go through this, and no, it's not "user error". Like RT said, there are no gravel roads in my area and I've had the same commute for years. For a car that is 10 months old with 4,600 miles this is ridiculous, almost as ridiculous as you defending Ford on this one.
Paint doesn't get damaged by itself; it gets damaged by impacts from foreign objects. It doesn't matter what area you live in, rock chips can happen anywhere and at any time.

As far as the trunk repair, there is a difference between a paint defect and paint DAMAGE. If the paint on the trunk was in fact defective, the manufacturer covered it and made it right. Case in point, the warranty covers DEFECTS, not DAMAGE.

As RSPEC-015 said, have your paint inspected by a professional. You know what they will find? A normal paint job with normal paint thickness that was damaged by impacts from foreign objects that you drove into.
 

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You are correct that I have no way of measuring it, nor would I know what normal would be. so I just have to go by visual comparison and based on that observation I can conclude that the paint does appear to be thinner/cheaper quality than my previous cars. I only have my observations. It is funny however you mention the paint on the aluminum (at least I believe the hood is aluminum) is thinner because that is where my chips are at so maybe my observation skills are better than you think.
"You are correct that I have no way of measuring it, nor would I know what normal would be"

And that in itself invalidates your entire post.

The paint on the hood is thinner?? The entire car is painted at the same time with the same paint...that's not "my opinion", that's a FACT.

Of course the hood is going to be the first panel to get rock chips...it's in the direct path of any debris that contact the car while driving.
 

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"You are correct that I have no way of measuring it, nor would I know what normal would be"

And that in itself invalidates your entire post.

The paint on the hood is thinner?? The entire car is painted at the same time with the same paint...that's not "my opinion", that's a FACT.

Of course the hood is going to be the first panel to get rock chips...it's in the direct path of any debris that contact the car while driving.
Lol, seriously Lol.

So if the car was making a noise but I did not have meter to measure the noise does that mean I could not report the noise? What about if was running poorly and down on power would I need a before and after dyno sheet?

The "paint being thinner" part came from RSPEC-015's post. The one where he did have it measured and the aluminum panels (hood and front fenders I believe) measured thinner by an unknown amount. Whether its because of a different paint system, as RSPEC-015 mentioned, or an inconsistency if it is painted all at the same time, there is a measurable difference. Would actually like to know how much thinner, just out of curiosity.

Usually rock chips are the worst on the front fascia in my experience which remarkably has held up well on the mustang. The hood, not so much.

For the record though, I am not trying to have Ford fix it, I am not trying to get anything from Ford. I am merely reporting an issue.

Plus if it keeps up I can always just do this...

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Actually, I am impressed with the paint on my Magnetic. 3500 miles already and not a single chip.
I would say it's holding up better than my Mazda.
 

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My trunk was BAD... real bad. When you ran your hand over it, it felt like sand paper. It's just starting on the rest of the car now. I'm curious to see what Ford progresses, because it looks like this is going to be an ongoing issue for me.
Sand paper can be from tree saps and pollen which happens to all cars. The trick is claybar and avoid parking under trees.
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