*MT-82 upgraded* but what does it mean ?

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  1. Double

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    Twin-disc clutch clutch and dual-mass flywheel ?!?!?!?!?!?!

    Driven the Ecoboost and GT with an MT-82 but I wasn't really exited for it's characteristics, felt a bit sluggish, heavy and unpleasant but if anything it was very capable doubt you would have any worries ever breaking it.

    What would these upgrades change about the characteristics of the MT-82 ?
     
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    I don't think we will know the true mechanical details and how they translate to real-world performance until someone actually gets their hands on one.
     
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    Yes, the car is heavy. But sluggish? Unpleasant? You sure you don't need a driver mod?
     
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    I think he's talking specifically about the MT82 not the car.
     
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    the MT82 in my 2011 GT was the best shifting manual I've ever driven, BUT once you wanted to go full bore, balls to wall, high rpm shifts, it wilted like an old flower, not sure where you're getting the MT82 feels sluggish, but ok
     
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    I feel like the MT82 hate is overplayed and blown way out of proportion.

    In very high HP and/or high revving applications there are some issues, but for regular/spirited/basic-modification levels of performance it doesnt have any issues.
     
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    What manual transmissions have you guys driven in high power cars which shift better? Are the Tremecs better? The Corvette transmission? What other's are there not counting $$$$ dollar high power imports?

    Just curious since my experience is limited to various generations of Mustang's.
     
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    Suppose you are right
     
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    GT350 TR3160 is a great shifting trans. Very positive feeling. Any direct shift no remote linkage T56 or derivative feels awesome. Corvette transaxle transmissions are a bit sloppy but stout...usually. A LOT of C5 Z06's are being autocrossed and raced in SCCA right now and their transmissions are giving up 3rd gear and reverse at a scary pace. 3 in my SCCA region in one week alone. The trans in the S2000 is a dream.

    People who right out complain about the MT82 without any frame of reference really need one. Two characters: T5. Done and done.
     
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    If you do not like the MT-82 experiencing a worse transmissions isn't going to make it any better right ?

    MT-82 fits with a Mustang I guess but not the more modern S550. That's why I wonder if the upgraded MT-82 is good enough for the 2018 5.0 if you know what I mean.
     
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    Agreed, I drove an '03 Cobra for years with the T56 and MGW and feel the current MT82 shifts no worse. I think some just need some perspective on what a junk transmission really is. Also sure it's going to have issues if you throw a bunch of extra power through it because it wasn't designed to handle it so I don't really understand the surprise with that. I've heard of plenty of autos breaking stuff too on high power applications as well but don't seem to hear the same hate from that group. I think the early MT82's earned a bad reputation that it will likely never shed and the best thing Ford could do for it would be to change the name to MT84 or something.
     
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    This specifically. :thumbsup:

    I've had one in both my EB and my GT and they're not bad at all. I'm also not sure what "sluggish, heavy and unpleasant" mean in relation to the MT-82. They seem to be none of things to me. I've driven my fait share of manuals and I do not mind the the MT-82 at all.
     
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    A well catered to MT82 is a great transmission. The shifts are so smooth. Throw a nice clutch, flywheel, shifter and you have a damn good transmission.
     
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    MGW + BG Syncroshift II and I doubt you'd have any complaints about it. Super slick, smooth, and precise.
     
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    The T5 was one of the best shifting transmissions in any mustang. It's only flaw was it's lack of strength in the case which allowed the mainshaft to flex and destroy 3rd.

    With that said, I have no issues with the MT82. It's a bit clunky, but shift's quite well. Powershifting is quite easy once you realize that the shifter requires a push away from the driver on shifts, especially the 2-3.
     
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    My '11 5.0L Brembo GT had the MT-82. Hated it! Clutch stuck to the floor sometimes, notchy shifting when cold, hanging up at redline shifts, etc. It improved slightly with a fluid change (per the Ford TSB) and an MGW Ltd shifter, but still a bad trans, IMHO. The T5 in my '89 5.0L LX was marginally better, despite many people having troubles with their T5's. I liked the Tremec 3650 that was in my '03 Mach 1 best.

    I trust that Ford has tired of hearing how bad the MT-82 has been, so the upgraded MT-82 in the '18 will likely be much better. One can hope, right?
     
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    The 4 t5s (in 3 mustangs) i have owned have all been unpleasant transmissions. Notchy, noisy, and far from smooth. I just sold my 95 gt a couple weeks ago and shifting the mt82 is a dream compared to shifting the t5 that was in that car.

    Even at my power level it's still a joy to row through the gears in my mt82
     
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    #19 Ecoboosted, Oct 10, 2017
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    I've done everything you mentioned and even put a stainless steel clutch cable and the Steeda spring in and it's still notchy. Although somewhat better but it's definetly not super slick or smooth. I must of gotten a bad one. If I ever get another Mustang It will be a the 10 speed auto even though I really don't care for an auto in a sports/ muscle car.
     
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    My 2011 Subaru STI had a wonderful transmission, but it didn't make up for other issues I had with the car.
     

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