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Which MPSS would be best for his car then? Other then the load rating differences
Get the standard Pilot Super Sport, not one tagged for an OEM like listed above. The standard tire is what I have used on my last 3 sports-commuter cars including my old C6 Grand Sport and they have been outstanding.
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not sure what the Porsche and Ferrari refs are for, maybe they are the stock tires...
Michelin PSS 245/35/20 and 285/30/20 "K1" Ferrari Spec vs Normal

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Since this will be a popular tire choice for the F10 I figure this will benefit others when they search on this topic and save them some headache.

Here is the deal with the Michelin PSS in "Ferrari K1" spec compared to the normal spec tire.

1) The Ferrari "K1" spec tires ARE different compared to the normal non Ferrari tires

2) The "K1" spec starts out with less tread wear. For the 245/35/20 size it starts out with 9/32 tread where as the normal tire is 10/32. Barely any difference but.....the 285/30/20 K1 Ferrari tire starts out at just 7/32 tread where as the normal tire is 10/32. You are basically losing 30% of tread right off the bat to save weight (more on that later).

3) The tread design pattern is the same but the grooves in between the tread columns on the K1 tire is wider. You have to see the tire side by side to see the difference.

4) The K1 Ferrari tire tends to be lighter weight than the normal tire. For the 285/30/20 size the K1 tire is approx 2.6lbs lighter. This doesn't mean its only from shaving down the tread of the tire because the overall diameter of both tires is exactly the same according to Michelin's specs.

5) Now here's the kicker. Since i originally ordered the K1 spec tires for both the front and rear just to find out now that Tirerack also sells the Normal version non K1 tire in the 285/30/20 size, I called to exchange the tires since i haven't mounted them yet. Now that i have both sets of the tires in front of me the K1 tire has a different profile sidewall and is also much stiffer than the normal non K1 tire. The K1 tire's sidewall is more rounded and has more of a stretched look while the normal version is a more traditional blockier sidewall (less stretch look). You can tell just by looking at the tire without them being installed on a wheel. The part that worries me is that the K1 tire will probably have stiffer ride comfort (better handling) compared to the non K1 version. I believe this is due to the K1 tire having a higher speed rating than the normal tire. Not sure.

6) The "K1" tire also cost more. TR has the rear tires for $406 each while the normal version is $359 each for the 285/30/20 size.



Alan

K1 on left, normal on right.


K1 on top.


K1 on left.


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Just had a Michelin rep call me back and he assured me that the tires perform 99.9% the same. Both version have the same speed rating which is different from what is shown on Tireracks website.

He can't explain why one of the tires sidewall is more rounded and why one of them feels stiffer to the hand but just said as long as these tires are mounted on the same axle there is no need for concern.

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Alright so apparently all the michelins are on national back order... So I ended up going with the nitto motivo all seasons tires with a 60k mile tread life. Probably good for me as I drive a lot although I'm definitely sacrificing performance here. I read good things about them, I'll let you all know how they turn out. Discount tire said 4-6 months until I can get the michelins.


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Cush is right the curvature of the edge is for high performance vehicles for a mroe even contact patch to the ground.

Also I recommend the Michelin Pilot Super Sports you wont regret it, but as you stated they are on National backorder atm so those Motivos you got are a good choice.
 

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Hes asking the difference between the 3 different pilot super sports. I know one is a run-flat. Not sure about the other one.

Are Michelin PSS run-flats even available in non-Corvette sizes?
 

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Are Michelin PSS run-flats even available in non-Corvette sizes?
Well, they are not Corvette only, but they are only in the sizes used on the C7, other than the 335/25/20.

They only come in 245/40/18, 245/35/19, 285/30/19, 285/35/19, 285/30/20, 335/25/20, according to Tire Rack.

Just to add, the ZP's seem to be just as good as the non-ZP's that I've had on my other cars. Maybe a little better to be due to the stiffer sidewall.
 

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Well, they are not Corvette only, but they are only in the sizes used on the C7, other than the 335/25/20.

They only come in 245/40/18, 245/35/19, 285/30/19, 285/35/19, 285/30/20, 335/25/20, according to Tire Rack.

Just to add, the ZP's seem to be just as good as the non-ZP's that I've had on my other cars. Maybe a little better to be due to the stiffer sidewall.
The ZP tires are good, they are rougher just as you stated because the tire itself is also thicker.
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