Lowering Oil Pan 2018 On Up

[Slopoke]

I'm in the process of doing my oil pump gears and Whipple stage II supercharger. On the 2018 on up, we have the composite (plastic) oil pans, so to get the oil pump out, you need to at least lower the oil pan. In the front of the oil pan, there are a couple of bolts with studs attached. There is no clearance to get a normal deep 13mm 1/4" drive socket with a swivel on them. I had to take a deep socket and shorten it to get it to fit with a swivel.

Just thought I'd put this out there to help someone have less grief.

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[Adamone92]

Any advice on the one that is underneath, right above the steering rack? That's the only one really giving me issues.

 

[nrm101]

I'm in the process of doing my oil pump gears and Whipple stage II supercharger. On the 2018 on up, we have the composite (plastic) oil pans, so to get the oil pump out, you need to at least lower the oil pan. In the front of the oil pan, there are a couple of bolts with studs attached. There is no clearance to get a normal deep 13mm 1/4" drive socket with a swivel on them. I had to take a deep socket and shorten it to get it to fit with a swivel.

Just thought I'd put this out there to help someone have less grief.

Curiosity why did you feel you need to change the oil gears in 18+ most if not all the issues I've seen with the oil gears were gen 1, gen 2

 

[Adamone92]

Curiosity why did you feel you need to change the oil gears in 18+ most if not all the issues I've seen with the oil gears were gen 1, gen 2

Well for me, I've heard that it's still a weak point and recommended to change out. I'm in the process of installing a supercharger so I figured for $300ish, it makes sense to go ahead and knock out the opg and cs for peace of mind.

 

[nrm101]

Well for me, I've heard that it's still a weak point and recommended to change out. I'm in the process of installing a supercharger so I figured for $300ish, it makes sense to go ahead and knock out the opg and cs for peace of mind.

Fair point 8k+ on supercharger another 300 on gears = better safe than sorry i guess

 

[givemeadollar]

I'm in the process of doing my oil pump gears and Whipple stage II supercharger. On the 2018 on up, we have the composite (plastic) oil pans, so to get the oil pump out, you need to at least lower the oil pan. In the front of the oil pan, there are a couple of bolts with studs attached. There is no clearance to get a normal deep 13mm 1/4" drive socket with a swivel on them. I had to take a deep socket and shorten it to get it to fit with a swivel.

Just thought I'd put this out there to help someone have less grief.

Nope, all opg/css on any year coyote can be done without ever touching the oil pan. The 2 screws for the oil pickup are a bitch but there is a fairly simple way around them if you are brave enough. Doing my 18th set of opg/css install today.

 

[nrm101]

Nope, all opg/css on any year coyote can be done without ever touching the oil pan. The 2 screws for the oil pickup are a bitch but there is a fairly simple way around them if you are brave enough. Doing my 18th set of opg/css install today.

Would you be interested in sharing how you would do that on 18+, I've seen most people say you have to drop the oil pan down

 

[givemeadollar]

Would you be interested in sharing how you would do that on 18+, I've seen most people say you have to drop the oil pan down

stubby wrenches, electrical tape, gauze, and shop rags.

 

[Rapid Red]

I'm in the process of doing my oil pump gears and Whipple stage II supercharger. On the 2018 on up, we have the composite (plastic) oil pans, so to get the oil pump out, you need to at least lower the oil pan. In the front of the oil pan, there are a couple of bolts with studs attached. There is no clearance to get a normal deep 13mm 1/4" drive socket with a swivel on them. I had to take a deep socket and shorten it to get it to fit with a swivel.

Just thought I'd put this out there to help someone have less grief.

That's an informative post .......

thanks

 

[Slopoke]

Any advice on the one that is underneath, right above the steering rack? That's the only one really giving me issues.

Long 1/4 inch drive extensions with a swivel socket.

 

[Slopoke]

Nope, all opg/css on any year coyote can be done without ever touching the oil pan. The 2 screws for the oil pickup are a bitch but there is a fairly simple way around them if you are brave enough. Doing my 18th set of opg/css install today.

The oil pickup tube on the Mustangs with the composite oil pan don't have bolts attaching the tube to the pump, it slip fits into the pump. I'm really curious how you got the pump off without lowering the oil pan.

 

[Slopoke]

Curiosity why did you feel you need to change the oil gears in 18+ most if not all the issues I've seen with the oil gears were gen 1, gen 2

I felt that it's better to be safe than sorry. Since you have the timing cover fully exposed already doing a supercharger installation, it's not that much more work to do the gears.

 

[Adamone92]

Long 1/4 inch drive extensions with a swivel socket.

thanks for the suggestion. I actually ended up getting it last night with a low profile torque wrench and a lot of swearing.

 

[Endokendal]

What is the point of the long extension on the studs? I can’t see any reason... Could they be cut down with a hacksaw to make a shorter socket work?
Another question since I’m about to do my OPG... looks like According to the repair manual that in order to fully remove the oil pan you have to raise the engine a couple of inches and lower the sub frame about 4”... I’m assuming there is enough room without doing those things to lower the pan enough to get the oil pump off... but to replace the oil pan gasket, I’d have to take the pan completely off... correct? It appears I have a minor gasket leak...

 

[Endokendal]

The oil pickup tube on the Mustangs with the composite oil pan don't have bolts attaching the tube to the pump, it slip fits into the pump. I'm really curious how you got the pump off without lowering the oil pan.

Is the pick up tube attached to the bottom of the pan with a couple of nuts or something? Is he talking about taking those off without lowering the pan, with only a small gap of access?

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