GM is pulling back on EVs

[K4fxd]

Even the story mentions improper storage. Who cares about the truth?

Were the cars improperly stored when they sank a ship? Were they not stored correctly on the ship currently burning? Was the lady's loaner not supposed to be in her garage?

Who cares about the truth.

But this is from someone who rolls with a group to ban everything: books, guns, gun parts, EVs, etc. We will need to expand the govt to handle all the bans.

So you are part of this group? I can believe it.

My comment on banning EV's was sarcasm.

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[K4fxd]

I put this in the other thread too.

I ain't riding one of these.

 

[K4fxd]

But..........

I think the BEV"s that are and have burned, cause more pollution than the ones that don't burn, save.

This is why some American race tracks ban EV's.

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/battery-fire-destroys-lancia-delta-164200932.html

 

[sk47]

But..........

I think the BEV"s that are and have burned, cause more pollution than the ones that don't burn, save.

This is why some American race tracks ban EV's.

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/battery-fire-destroys-lancia-delta-164200932.html

Hello; There can be a few take aways from these fires but i will yet again pound on one in particular. That being once started they are so very hard to control. Has to do with the sort of energy reservoir perhaps than the total amount of energy.
Both liquid fossil type fuels and stored electron battery type fuels can be packed into a vehicle. Similar amounts of energy needed to move/accelerate a particular over a distance. (Perhaps some more extra for the BEV from the extra weight of the battery packs.)( Also I do not exactly know for sure but suspect that unlike with gasoline the batteries do not become lighter as the energy is used up.)
With a gasoline fire once the initial flames are beaten down the fire is essentially controlled. The water can also flush away and dilute ant spilled fuel.
Not so with the BEV. That energy, it seems, must be depleted pretty much completely. My guess is some sort of short becomes the path for an uncontrolled discharge of the energy. That short becomes hot as the energy courses thru and causes damage to the next cells and so on.

A month or so ago I had a cordless vacuum cleaner go bad. It would take a charge but I could not repair he motor. I broke it down so to recycle what i could. It had a set of Li-ion battery cells that were fully charged. Eight of them I think. Got them out of the case and knew i needed to discharge them before taking them to the shop where i can take old batteries.
I have a couple of old six volt headlamps. I made up some wire leads to run from the batteries to the lamps. Discharged each cell that way. Had a mishap fastening the leads to one of the cells. The bare wire touched both the + post of the battery and the - cylindrical case just mm away. Wire got red hot in fractions of a second. Burned a small spot on my finger.
May be the cell of a BEV are better insulated than a Dyson vacuum. I do not know.

Any way, As was the case during the Covid back and forth the self appointed spurts would not listen to those of us then and show no sign of listening again now.

 

[K4fxd]

And another one. Can you imiagine being in one of these if and when they decide to self destruct?

 

[sk47]

And another one. Can you imiagine being in one of these if and when they decide to self destruct?

Hello; Too many security and video cameras around hurting the narrative. I expect a flurry of counter pictures of ICE vehicle fires to follow. Tit for tat sort of rebuttal.
What is needed are a few videos of the fire suppression teams fighting some BEV fires and then some of ICE fires for contrast.

I may have to own a BEV someday by mandate and force. If so the thing will not be parked in my basement garage. Might have to put up a new car port even further from the house than my current one.

 

[sk47]

Why Automakers Aren't Even Considering Battery Swapping For EVs (msn.com)

Hello; Too many negative waves daddy o.

 

[jtmat]

The technology is moving forward!

Joby Aviation, Inc. (NYSE:JOBY), a company developing all-electric aircraft for commercial passenger service, today announced it has received a Special Airworthiness Certificate for the first aircraft built at its Pilot Production Line in Marina, California.

The aircraft is expected to become the first ever eVTOL aircraft to be delivered to a customer when it moves to Edwards Air Force Base in 2024.

 

[K4fxd]

Just wait until one of these self destructs.

I truly hope a better battery can be developed. Lithium and others like it are time bombs.

 

[jtmat]

Just wait until one of these self destructs.

I truly hope a better battery can be developed. Lithium and others like it are time bombs.

Yea, yea... sure it will explode over your house. That will be your fanciful story.

 

[K4fxd]

That will be your fanciful story.

I don't know of what fanciful stories you speak. None of the things I have said are untrue.

No, no BEV's have burst into flames in front of my house today.

If one does, there will be video evidence along with my story.

 

[jtmat]

And another one. Can you imiagine being in one of these if and when they decide to self destruct?

Hard to follow how many of these stories are true based on certain people spreading false info to push their agenda. Too many fanciful stories.

Fact check: Video shows methane-powered bus on fire, not electric vehicle

The claim: Video shows electric bus fire
In a dramatic video that spread widely on social media, a burning bus is parked by the side of a rural road, lengthy columns of flame shooting out of it both vertically and horizontally.

"Electric bus on fire," reads the video caption of an April 19 Facebook post.

The video was viewed more than 1,000 times and was also shared on Twitter.

However, the video actually shows a burning natural gas-powered bus, according to the local fire department, and the lengthy flames are consistent with a designed safety feature.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-bus-methane-powered-not-electric/9538915002/

 

[K4fxd]

There was no video, just a bunch of ads.

Yes Propane and CNG are designed to release gas not explode. Thats why I take the propane fire I linked to as suspect. The bubble headed reporter kept saying the propane tanks exploded when none looked to have. They were just scorched.

My opinion here:
I think a BEV burst into flames causing the propane tanks to activate the release valve and caused the fire to be larger than it would have absent the propane tanks. The agenda of promoting EV's is the reason for the false reporting.

Even if I'm wrong the reporting is false due to the explosion claim.

 

[sk47]

Hard to follow how many of these stories are true based on certain people spreading false info to push their agenda. Too many fanciful stories.

Fact check: Video shows methane-powered bus on fire, not electric vehicle

The claim: Video shows electric bus fire
In a dramatic video that spread widely on social media, a burning bus is parked by the side of a rural road, lengthy columns of flame shooting out of it both vertically and horizontally.

"Electric bus on fire," reads the video caption of an April 19 Facebook post.

The video was viewed more than 1,000 times and was also shared on Twitter.

However, the video actually shows a burning natural gas-powered bus, according to the local fire department, and the lengthy flames are consistent with a designed safety feature.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-bus-methane-powered-not-electric/9538915002/

Hello; In the last few posts K4fdx has posted at least two videos or images of electric busses burning. You appear to be countering this with a claim at least one of the videos was of a methane bus.
Took me a while to find and open a link in your rebuttal post which shows the video of the burning bus in question. It may well be a methane bus on fire in your video, but it is not either of the videos K4fdx posted.

Not really a nice try on your part. If you are not clever enough to understand the difference such is one thing. If you were somehow trying to pull one over on us, which matches your past actions, it did not work.

I do not doubt gasoline, diesel or natural gas-powered busses have and do burn. As i have stated already, such is not the issue. Even in the video you posted it was explained that the natural gas tank had a pressure release valve at work so as to release the pressure of the hot gas and prevent an explosion. Do BEV busses have such a safety system?

The issue with BEV fires is not that they happen. More it is they are so very hard to control. It is too early to know if the frequency of BEV fires is to be less or greater than traditional ICE fires. TTHe BEV's are much too small a portion of vehicles on the road so far. When they do burn it is a big deal.

 

[sk47]

There was no video, just a bunch of ads.

Yes Propane and CNG are designed to release gas not explode. Thats why I take the propane fire I linked to as suspect. The bubble headed reporter kept saying the propane tanks exploded when none looked to have. They were just scorched.

My opinion here:
I think a BEV burst into flames causing the propane tanks to activate the release valve and caused the fire to be larger than it would have absent the propane tanks. The agenda of promoting EV's is the reason for the false reporting.

Even if I'm wrong the reporting is false due to the explosion claim.

Hello; You have to click on embedded links at the end of the story to get the video.

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