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[drabon74]

Will this tune increase throttle response or will I still benefit from pedalmax? This tune works on automatic equipped cars also?

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[Livernois Motorsports]

Will this tune increase throttle response or will I still benefit from pedalmax? This tune works on automatic equipped cars also?

The JMS products that you have will not affect our tune at all. Honestly, we see far more tuning clients uninstall those products post our tuning. We tune for all trans types, not just the manual guys/gals.

 

[MaskedRacerX]

[MENTION=11090]Livernois Motorsports[/MENTION]

Since you seem to be getting deeper into the ECU, have you considered - if you even want to answer this in a public forum - any kind of development of a "stealth" tuner? Some way to prevent flash count (or whatever can be traced), or some kind of piggyback type device?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to avoid pay-to-play, but I'd hate to do something as minor as a tune, have something happen to say, the rear end, and have to battle the dealer/Ford over that failure being correlated to the tune (running more HP/TQ than the components were design for type of hassle...)

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

[MENTION=11090]Livernois Motorsports[/MENTION]

Since you seem to be getting deeper into the ECU, have you considered - if you even want to answer this in a public forum - any kind of development of a "stealth" tuner? Some way to prevent flash count (or whatever can be traced), or some kind of piggyback type device?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to avoid pay-to-play, but I'd hate to do something as minor as a tune, have something happen to say, the rear end, and have to battle the dealer/Ford over that failure being correlated to the tune (running more HP/TQ than the components were design for type of hassle...)

Totally can understand where the question comes from. However that is not anything that we would do. There is far too much that would be at stake on our end, because we do much business with the big 3 automakers. Not only that, but there is no way for a tune to be truly untraceable. There will always be a line of code somewhere that a group of tune builders like ours will be able to find somewhere.

 

[MaskedRacerX]

Totally can understand where the question comes from. However that is not anything that we would do. There is far too much that would be at stake on our end, because we do much business with the big 3 automakers. Not only that, but there is no way for a tune to be truly untraceable. There will always be a line of code somewhere that a group of tune builders like ours will be able to find somewhere.

Thanks, and totally understandable, both from a business ethics and tech standpoint (I've been in the tech sector for 25+ years, cryptographic work with the Feds, etc., so I really get that last part )

 

[Silver50Pony]

Hey Livernois, when you add e85 to the tank does your tune automatically bump up spark and timing until it reads knock? I know the stock tune when going from 87 Oct to 93 it just bumps up spark I'm hearing but not timing. I also hear that there is also a point where there's too much spark and it knocks after adding too much spark.

 

[2015MagneticGt]

Looking forward to hearing the deals offered for switching from another tuning company!

 

[Process]

Hey Livernois, when you add e85 to the tank does your tune automatically bump up spark and timing until it reads knock? I know the stock tune when going from 87 Oct to 93 it just bumps up spark I'm hearing but not timing. I also hear that there is also a point where there's too much spark and it knocks after adding too much spark.

The Ford strategy for this is, there are two tables.

An alcohol table, and a gasoline table. The alcohol table is usually tuned to assume 100% alcohol (note this is not always the case), and the gasoline table is usually tuned to assume E10 between 89-93 octane from a spark perspective.

When the widebands detect the ethanol content %, it will average the timing between those two tables. It will do the same for stoich.

 

[Need4Speed15]

It won't be figured out....I can all but promise you that. There are about 23k tables that you have in your ECM and the access to the tables that we alter in the tune are large, complex and require a ton of experience with that brand controller.

Well, it appears Lund figured it out and is now offering a flex-fuel option with their tunes. Not sure if they use the identical methods that Livernois does, but it nice to see another tuner offering this...especially with tuning devices that have datalog capabilities.

Question for Livernois...have you tested your flex fuel tune on E85 with a NA car that has either a Boss or CJ intake manifold, long tubes, and 7500+ shiftpoints? Curious as Beef mentioned that those cars would still need an injector upgrade, but stock intake manifold cars are ok.

 

[RSKTAKR]

I haven't read through this entire thread so sorry if its been asked/answered already. This tune would have to be with your tuner and that's IT right? No tunes that are compatible with HP Tuners I would think?

 

[futbol90x]

Newbie question

so if the e85 gas at the pump is lower than 85 percent of ethanol will the car performe less than having 93 octane gas in my car?


Pretty much what percent of ethanol do i need to have at the pump before switching to 93 octane gas? So i dont lose performance.

 

[Process]

E30 can usually give you better performance than 93.

 

[futbol90x]

So its not good to stored the car with e85 correcr

 

[phrenetiK]

It won't be figured out....I can all but promise you that. There are about 23k tables that you have in your ECM and the access to the tables that we alter in the tune are large, complex and require a ton of experience with that brand controller.

LOL. After trying to work with you guys, that is all I have to say.

 

[RSKTAKR]

It won't be figured out....I can all but promise you that. There are about 23k tables that you have in your ECM and the access to the tables that we alter in the tune are large, complex and require a ton of experience with that brand controller.

Its already been figured out by lund a week later, and I know HPT will have it figured out in a couple weeks to. Time for some 47's

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