Gas prices dropping soon?

[sk47]

It is a real truck if you do not need a payload of more than 2235 lbs and/or towing more than 10,000 lbs. In all honesty who many regular F150 owners do you really think do this. Also based on the fact that they sold out the first year’s production I’d say the number is hardly limited. This truck is going to be a huge success. Just like the Mach-E already is.

Hello; I get it. You consider it a real truck because it can haul over 2200 pounds and tow 10K pounds. Add that it is selling well so far. I guess I am thinking in total user numbers of pickups more than a distinct Ford production run. If in a few years the lions share of pickups sales are the EV sort that last part may be more impressive.

Some caveats are needed. The playing field currently not level/fair between an EV and an ICE. There are the subsidies for one thing. There is the artificially higher price of fuel for another.

One thing I have noted over the pre-covid years is that there are usually a number of late model BMW cars for sale with about 40,000 miles. That mileage happens to match the warranty to some degree. Seems to me folks are happy to own a BMW while it is under warranty but trade them when the bumper-to-bumper miles are nearly gone. My WAG on the EV pickups is the same sort of thing will happen around the time the battery packs warranty is about gone.

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[sk47]

By the way that report did not indicate how the Lightning was equipped. Did it have the extended-range battery and Max Trailer Tow package? If it didn’t the test was hardly fair. Just looked like a good excuse to post a negative video on one of the hottest vehicles of the year.

Hello; I do not think this helps your contention much. The greater range packages cost a great deal more further diminishing any advantage the EV might have. I do not know if the test vehicles were matched dollar for dollar to any degree, so may be off base.
My guess is it may be possible to get an ICE with towing and load capacity to match the EV and by the nature of the ICE have no range problems at all. In addition the extra monies saved buying an ICE truck may well pay for a lot of gas/diesel.

I do not mind that some love the EV Ford pickup. Any who want one ought to have the choice. If they wind up happy over time so much the better. What many of us dislike is the whole agenda of incentives on the EV side and punishments on the ICE side. I have to buy gasoline now and my tax dollars go to programs for EV's. The war on fossil fuels adds to my cost of living. My favorite cereal was up over 50 cents at Wal-Mart today. It is more than an additional 50 cents higher than Wal-Mart at Korgers today. I checked.

 

[Bikeman315]

As someone who has pulled a camper across the county, double the range and it still fails. 300 miles between fillups is the bare minimum when traveling long distance.

At this point it’s just a fail in this test. 86 miles or 172 it doesn’t really matter.

It’s an in town mall cruiser.

Agreed 100%. For long distance towing it has to be ICE.

 

[Rapid Red]

Another Ford EV Recall: Here's the Dangerous Defect This Time

By C. Douglas Golden July 20, 2022 at 8:50am




When Americans first began feeling the pinch at the pump, they turned to smaller cars. Ford’s answer to this was the Pinto.


Half a century later, that dumpster fire (quite literally, if you could manage to toss a Pinto into a dumpster after you rear-ended it) still remains one of the great automotive product failures of all time, an enduring symbol of the U.S. car industry’s general indifference to design, engineering and quality in the 1970s.


As we feel the pinch at the pump again, President Joe Biden’s administration wants us to turn to electric vehicles.


Ford, to its credit, has given us not one Pinto, but several. Whoever said American ingenuity was at a low ebb?


On Monday, Green Car Reports said the automaker is recalling 100,689 vehicles with a hybrid drivetrain over a fire risk.




(Here at The Western Journal, we’ve documented that electric vehicles aren’t the panacea that we’ve been promised — and, in some cases, could be dangerous to drivers or occupants. We’ll keep bringing readers the truth that the mainstream media won’t. You can help by subscribing.)


According to Green Car Reports, the list of vehicles affected is rather extensive.


“The recall affects 2020-2022 Ford Escape, 2021-2022 Lincoln Corsair, and 2022 Ford Maverick models that have the 2.5-liter inline-4 engine as part of a hybrid or plug-in hybrid system. That includes the Ford Escape Hybrid, Escape Plug-In Hybrid, and Maverick Hybrid, as well as the Lincoln Corsair Grand Touring plug-in hybrid,” the publication said.


While the recall in this case only affects vehicles with partially electrified drivetrains, the issue is somewhat different in that internal combustion plays a significant role: If the engine fails, a fire might ensue.

 

[Bikeman315]

Another Ford EV Recall: Here's the Dangerous Defect This Time

By C. Douglas Golden July 20, 2022 at 8:50am




When Americans first began feeling the pinch at the pump, they turned to smaller cars. Ford’s answer to this was the Pinto.


Half a century later, that dumpster fire (quite literally, if you could manage to toss a Pinto into a dumpster after you rear-ended it) still remains one of the great automotive product failures of all time, an enduring symbol of the U.S. car industry’s general indifference to design, engineering and quality in the 1970s.


As we feel the pinch at the pump again, President Joe Biden’s administration wants us to turn to electric vehicles.


Ford, to its credit, has given us not one Pinto, but several. Whoever said American ingenuity was at a low ebb?


On Monday, Green Car Reports said the automaker is recalling 100,689 vehicles with a hybrid drivetrain over a fire risk.




(Here at The Western Journal, we’ve documented that electric vehicles aren’t the panacea that we’ve been promised — and, in some cases, could be dangerous to drivers or occupants. We’ll keep bringing readers the truth that the mainstream media won’t. You can help by subscribing.)


According to Green Car Reports, the list of vehicles affected is rather extensive.


“The recall affects 2020-2022 Ford Escape, 2021-2022 Lincoln Corsair, and 2022 Ford Maverick models that have the 2.5-liter inline-4 engine as part of a hybrid or plug-in hybrid system. That includes the Ford Escape Hybrid, Escape Plug-In Hybrid, and Maverick Hybrid, as well as the Lincoln Corsair Grand Touring plug-in hybrid,” the publication said.


While the recall in this case only affects vehicles with partially electrified drivetrains, the issue is somewhat different in that internal combustion plays a significant role: If the engine fails, a fire might ensue.

Very misleading title (no surprise considering the source). They did clarify in the final paragraph that the issue is with the ICE motor and not the EV part of the system.

 

[sk47]

Very misleading title (no surprise considering the source). They did clarify in the final paragraph that the issue is with the ICE motor and not the EV part of the system.

Hello; Interesting take. I do not read it that way. Yes the ICE plays a significant role statement is present. That however does not necessarily mean the EV/battery portion is not part of the issue. I will wait for more information before making a call.
Just as a guess the battery/EV system may have a failure which starts the ICE fire. If the recall is also for the ICE only vehicles using the same engines, such would help your contention. That would show a problem with the ICE.

 

[Gregs24]

Just a prediction. Watch the price of oil and call me out if it keeps dropping.

In other news gas just dipped under $4 here.

I'll call you out - it kept dropping

 

[Gregs24]

Another Ford EV Recall: Here's the Dangerous Defect This Time

By C. Douglas Golden July 20, 2022 at 8:50am




When Americans first began feeling the pinch at the pump, they turned to smaller cars. Ford’s answer to this was the Pinto.


Half a century later, that dumpster fire (quite literally, if you could manage to toss a Pinto into a dumpster after you rear-ended it) still remains one of the great automotive product failures of all time, an enduring symbol of the U.S. car industry’s general indifference to design, engineering and quality in the 1970s.


As we feel the pinch at the pump again, President Joe Biden’s administration wants us to turn to electric vehicles.


Ford, to its credit, has given us not one Pinto, but several. Whoever said American ingenuity was at a low ebb?


On Monday, Green Car Reports said the automaker is recalling 100,689 vehicles with a hybrid drivetrain over a fire risk.




(Here at The Western Journal, we’ve documented that electric vehicles aren’t the panacea that we’ve been promised — and, in some cases, could be dangerous to drivers or occupants. We’ll keep bringing readers the truth that the mainstream media won’t. You can help by subscribing.)


According to Green Car Reports, the list of vehicles affected is rather extensive.


“The recall affects 2020-2022 Ford Escape, 2021-2022 Lincoln Corsair, and 2022 Ford Maverick models that have the 2.5-liter inline-4 engine as part of a hybrid or plug-in hybrid system. That includes the Ford Escape Hybrid, Escape Plug-In Hybrid, and Maverick Hybrid, as well as the Lincoln Corsair Grand Touring plug-in hybrid,” the publication said.


While the recall in this case only affects vehicles with partially electrified drivetrains, the issue is somewhat different in that internal combustion plays a significant role: If the engine fails, a fire might ensue.

What appalling journalism

The actual recall is for the ICE engine which if it fails may dump oil in the undertray that may catch fire as a result of exhaust heat or ignition electrics.

It isn't even EV's that are affected, it's PHEV's

Who buys and reads this shit?

 

[Bikeman315]

Who buys and reads this shit?

People that have a certain belief system. In this case the Anti-EV group. Unfortunately there are many media sources on both sides that spin their reporting to attract a certain readership. It is what it is.

 

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[Bikeman315]

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Definitely going in the right direction.

 

[K4fxd]

Gotta get prices lower so the sheeple will vote the correct way.

 

[Bikeman315]

Gotta get prices lower so the sheeple will vote the correct way.

There was tons of talk when prices were going up but very little as prices start to drop. The war in Ukraine is still going on, no pipelines have been either opened or closed, and there are still no shortages. I wonder what the correct way actually is.

 

[LSchicago]

There was tons of talk when prices were going up but very little as prices start to drop. The war in Ukraine is still going on, no pipelines have been either opened or closed, and there are still no shortages. I wonder what the correct way actually is.

Gas prices are more related to market futures than anything else, even crude prices. The market is getting softer now because people are waking up to their senses and not spending as much money. Interest rates are going up as a measure against inflation, and it is helping. Housing and car prices down. Lumber prices down. Gas prices down. Next up, food prices. Inflation and spending spiraled out of control in 2020 and 2021. Time to reel it in. Buy only what you need, and prices will all fall!

BTW: People talk less when they have less to complain about!

 

[Gregs24]

It hasn’t went up the way I expected but it hasn’t dropped either. But if it makes you feel better you can have all the internet points.

I think you will find crude prices have continued to fall since you made your prediction..

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