FRTP sway bar setup

[dmann]

I had this suspension installed and am fairly happy with it for street manners. I will track it alot in the fall but have some questions.
The car feels a little loose in the rear in turns while the front feels hooked up. The installer said he set the front sway bar to the soft setting and the rear to the stiff setting, could this be the loose feeling i get in the rear now? Maybe set the rear to the soft setting and test?

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[Norm Peterson]

Might try a mid setting up front with the rear at full soft and go from there.


Norm

 

[dmann]

should they typically be set similar front and rear or is it good practice for the rear to be a little soft?

 

[Bluemustang]

I had this suspension installed and am fairly happy with it for street manners. I will track it alot in the fall but have some questions.
The car feels a little loose in the rear in turns while the front feels hooked up. The installer said he set the front sway bar to the soft setting and the rear to the stiff setting, could this be the loose feeling i get in the rear now? Maybe set the rear to the soft setting and test?

Yes, absolutely. The stiff rear bar is generally not something that works in this car, at least that's been my experience thus far.

If going to stiffen one end, stiffen the front instead where it's needed.

 

[strengthrehab]

I went from a Pedders rear bar to a stock GTPP bar when I installed my rear lower control arm bearings and the difference is amazing. I can actually power out of corners now with only very predictable oversteer.

 

[BmacIL]

I had this suspension installed and am fairly happy with it for street manners. I will track it alot in the fall but have some questions.
The car feels a little loose in the rear in turns while the front feels hooked up. The installer said he set the front sway bar to the soft setting and the rear to the stiff setting, could this be the loose feeling i get in the rear now? Maybe set the rear to the soft setting and test?

Reverse that. Installer doesn't know what he's doing.

 

[Grintch]

I had this suspension installed and am fairly happy with it for street manners. I will track it alot in the fall but have some questions.
The car feels a little loose in the rear in turns while the front feels hooked up. The installer said he set the front sway bar to the soft setting and the rear to the stiff setting, could this be the loose feeling i get in the rear now? Maybe set the rear to the soft setting and test?

Soft front and stiff rear is the most loose/oversteery setting you can use.

I currently run Stiff/medium, but it's a little too pushy for my staggered Michelin's. But I think it should be about right when I run the square NT-01 setup.

 

[strengthrehab]

Soft front and stiff rear is the most loose/oversteery setting you can use.

I currently run Stiff/medium, but it's a little too pushy for my staggered Michelin's. But I think it should be about right when I run the square NT-01 setup.

My I had medium/medium (I forget the rates) and it felt good, but I had too much oversteer on corner exit. Now I'm at middle front/stock GTPP rear and feels so planted with the square NT01 (305) setup.

 

[dmann]

all this makes perfect sense with how the car feels, much appreciated guys!

 

[Grintch]

My I had medium/medium (I forget the rates) and it felt good, but I had too much oversteer on corner exit. Now I'm at middle front/stock GTPP rear and feels so planted with the square NT01 (305) setup.

You running the FPTP bars? IIRC the front bars are only two position, soft or stiff. With three position rear bars. I know some of the aftermarket options are 3 position front AND rear.

I am also running the FPTP springs (like Dman), if you are running different springs or coilovers that may change the balance (and the best ARB settings).

 

[dmann]

You running the FPTP bars? IIRC the front bars are only two position, soft or stiff. With three position rear bars. I know some of the aftermarket options are 3 position front AND rear.

I am also running the FPTP springs (like Dman), if you are running different springs or coilovers that may change the balance (and the best ARB settings).

I was just about to ask you that. So, the FRTP has two setting up front and three in the rear, check!
Is my logic correct in thinking the ends of the SBs are the softest settings?

 

[Grintch]

Right. Shorter = stiffer.

 

[strengthrehab]

You running the FPTP bars? IIRC the front bars are only two position, soft or stiff. With three position rear bars. I know some of the aftermarket options are 3 position front AND rear.

I am also running the FPTP springs (like Dman), if you are running different springs or coilovers that may change the balance (and the best ARB settings).

I am not running those bars. My comment was more aligning the "rear setting should be soft vs stiff" argument

 

[dmann]

Right. Shorter = stiffer.

thanks man

 

[NightmareMoon]

Your installer is trying to kill you

Run the rear bar on a softer setting, the car will oversteer less easily and should feel a lot more planted. If you want more rear grip, soften the rear bar. If you want more front grip, soften the front bar.

Only go as stiff as you need to meet your goals for flat handling and weight transfer speed. Softer means more grip in general.

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