Results don't upset me, but I was just posting a question which I thought was the point of forums. If you have explanations I bet plenty of people would be interested, rather than wondering what the response means.
Ron is a troll.... he needs a hug and attention, obviously. :lol:
name calling when I was kidding around???
If your tuned prior to ford racing you already lost your warranty. It was the point I was trying to make. Anyone can chose any tune they like..
I'm not surprised that aftermarket tunes would have greater yields than any performance tune from the factory, and we all know why. The question is, if all you want it for is more get up and go for a daily driver that will never see the track and you've only got 4,000 miles on your car, will the Ford tune do the trick? I'd really hate to toss my warranty for gains I won't appreciate.
When you say "smooth" for auto that is interesting to me, but I have no way to confirm any difference in shift points / pressure etc between BAMA and Ford Performance. As I mentioned up front I actually dig their slightly more subdued performance tune vs race, for this precise reason. In normal mode with BAMA's race tune it was just too hyperactive and would shift earlier and very quickly when just cruising around. The performance tune is very balanced for daily driving, until you switch to sport or track modes and friggin' floor it.
Yes, it wasn't part of my question but if I ever did the Ford tune I would go back to the original factory tune for a little while before doing it. That doesn't guarantee they wouldn't find out it had been tuned...
Unlike what that troll Ron is saying, the FP tune will get you down the road, and quickly.
If you are happy with what you have, keep it... nothing wrong with that.
That is what most people are doing... I did not even answer that person... not worth spending 100 posts back and forth... people believe what they want.
Wow... you are unbelievable. Seriously, go troll another thread. You don't have parts to sell? Slow month? Gee... get over being called out over your trolling. Not a huge deal. Live and learn.
I don't race, I just want it to be a little more fun when I have the opportunity to do a little spirited driving. You know, pull a little harder out of the turns, that kind of thing. It sounds like the FP setup will work nicely for me. Thanks for the feedback.
I just got my FP tune loaded and I'm driving through the supposed 100 mile dead period, but I can already tell a big difference in throttle response and part-throttle acceleration. After a couple of days I'm going to get after it pretty good and see how it feels.
That "100 mile dead period" is a myth. Some were saying 100, some 200 some were saying multiple 200 mile drive cycles, it's all false. Talking with Ford Performance rep, he explained there is the normal table learning for fuel trims that happens quickly, something you probably wouldn't notice but what is noticeable is the OAR Adjust (Octane Adjustment Ratio). He said this is the first time they've included this so that owners could use 87 octane fuel in desired or needed. Normally they would just require 91 octane and not include that feature and it can be turned off by the owner. He said there is no SET drive cycle to get it to fully learn, the best way is to drive the car normal and enjoy it. To get it to learn the timing faster, a few pulls from 50-70 MPH at about 50% throttle would help. To me, that's normal getting on the highway or normal driving. Please don't expect that after 100 miles your car will come to life suddenly.
I always run 93, so does this mean that the new program will learn and get full use out of it? Around here it's either 89 or 93, no 91, so I'll still use it, but it would be nice to take full advantage of it.
The tune was for 91 but what we're really talking about is a minimum requirement and timing being adjusted by the available octane. Without seeing the programmed tables, there's now way to know the answer for sure. However, there is that possibility that using 93 octane will allow it to advance the timing a little more over using 91. Plus it provides an extra buffer. I always use 93 and 91 octane is available.