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[dron_jones]

$10k? Why didn't you just get the OEM wheels ...They are priced around the same from Autonation

I might be wrong but if these are 12lbs i think these are lighter than the factory carbon wheels.

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[kart125]

Stock CF wheels are 17-18 pounds I believe... 11-12 pounds would be crazy light!

 

[RustedAngel]

I might be wrong but if these are 12lbs i think these are lighter than the factory carbon wheels.

According to the Ese site, that weight is correct - and yes, that's in fact lighter than the R wheels. R wheels are right at 18/ea.

 

[krt22]

Dude, $10,000 for wheels? Wouldnt you have been better selling your car for 55k, put that 10k on top and maybe add another 5-6k and get an R? Plus you would be able to amortize the cost over 6-7 years vs paying $10,000 cash now for wheels.

Just saying

Not that easy. Even if I found an R with a 10k ADM, its 10kADM, 10K difference in price between the base/R, and another 6k in lost TTL. So more like a 25k delta

 

[Robinsuanne]

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[J_Maher_AMG]

I might be wrong but if these are 12lbs i think these are lighter than the factory carbon wheels.

Stock CF wheels are 17-18 pounds I believe... 11-12 pounds would be crazy light!

Got to wonder how realistic that 12 lb weight is though, even on the One:1, I think Christian mentioned that his wheels were somewhere in the 6 kg range which would be about 12-13lbs. I just don't see how an aftermarket company could offer the same lightness while also offering the guaranteed stiffness and loading that the Koeniggsegg, and the R wheels for that matter, offer in terms of production quality.

Be very interesting if they could!

 

[kart125]

Got to wonder how realistic that 12 lb weight is though, even on the One:1, I think Christian mentioned that his wheels were somewhere in the 6 kg range which would be about 12-13lbs. I just don't see how an aftermarket company could offer the same lightness while also offering the guaranteed stiffness and loading that the Koeniggsegg, and the R wheels for that matter, offer in terms of production quality.

Be very interesting if they could!

I'd be concerned about the fact that the GT350 is a heavy car... are the wheels going to be strong enough? OK for street driving maybe but tracking the car? If they where the same weight as the R wheels I'd be less concerned. I'm sure there is a reason the R wheels are 18 pounds and not 12 pounds...

 

[J_Maher_AMG]

I'd be concerned about the fact that the GT350 is a heavy car... are the wheels going to be strong enough? OK for street driving maybe but tracking the car? If they where the same weight as the R wheels I'd be less concerned. I'm sure there is a reason the R wheels are 18 pounds and not 12 pounds...

Agreed, the 350 is certainly not a light car. That's not saying that making very strong wheels at those weights isn't possible, Koeniggsegg has proved that it can be done, as their wheels will undergo FAR more stress both laterally and vertically considering the aerodynamic downforce the One:1 generates. But again, those are wheels that are constructed very differently than the ones the GT350R uses.

It could be possible that the method of construction that the GT350R uses is simply much cheaper than if they were to utilize a method that results in lighter weight. But it just makes me dubious that this ESE wheels could be made that light, but also for that cheap while meeting the structural requirements of the wheel.

 

[Darkane]

Agreed, the 350 is certainly not a light car. That's not saying that making very strong wheels at those weights isn't possible, Koeniggsegg has proved that it can be done, as their wheels will undergo FAR more stress both laterally and vertically considering the aerodynamic downforce the One:1 generates. But again, those are wheels that are constructed very differently than the ones the GT350R uses.

It could be possible that the method of construction that the GT350R uses is simply much cheaper than if they were to utilize a method that results in lighter weight. But it just makes me dubious that this ESE wheels could be made that light, but also for that cheap while meeting the structural requirements of the wheel.

Part of the problem with the Ford wheel is it has a fair bit of aluminum, I'm guessing adding 2-3lbs to the weight also.

 

[J_Maher_AMG]

Part of the problem with the Ford wheel is it has a fair bit of aluminum, I'm guessing adding 2-3lbs to the weight also.

For sure, but thankfully it is all at the centre of the wheel, and considering how close it is to the rotational centre, makes very little impact on acceleration/deceleration. Lighter would certainly benefit suspension control though.

Though I assume they must use some other material for the mounting surface to get it down to 12 lbs, not sure what they do there.

 

[Offboost]

Have you considered how the lighter wheels with the standard shocks will effect handling? The Rs have different dampning and springs I have heard that the lighter wheels on a non R will make for some interesting handling characteristics.

I know in most applications lighter is always better but you may end needing to purchase R shocks, springs and rear sway bar links to get the most out of it a the track on the street will probably be fine.

 

[Koil]

Have you considered how the lighter wheels with the standard shocks will effect handling? The Rs have different dampning and springs I have heard that the lighter wheels on a non R will make for some interesting handling characteristics.

I know in most applications lighter is always better but you may end needing to purchase R shocks, springs and rear sway bar links to get the most out of it a the track on the street will probably be fine.

Thanks for the input, I will wait till I have put rims on to feel the difference. Besides, I always wanted the R front springs for the lowered look

 

[Koil]

Got to wonder how realistic that 12 lb weight is though, even on the One:1, I think Christian mentioned that his wheels were somewhere in the 6 kg range which would be about 12-13lbs. I just don't see how an aftermarket company could offer the same lightness while also offering the guaranteed stiffness and loading that the Koeniggsegg, and the R wheels for that matter, offer in terms of production quality.

Be very interesting if they could!

I believe we have watched the same interview for koeniggsegg, from what ESE told me, they also adpoted same autoclave curing process to manufacture those wheels. As for CR wheel, from their interview with jay Leno, they openly mentioned they did not adopt autoclave for wheels which might result in higher resin/carbon fiber ratio and lead to higher weight per wheel

 

[kart125]

Thanks for the input, I will wait till I have put rims on to feel the difference. Besides, I always wanted the R front springs for the lowered look

The R springs do not lower the car. The R is lower because of 30 series tires instead of 35 series on the non-R.

Ford Performance has announced lowering springs for the GT350 that should come out april-may. Should also be stiffer than R, although final specs are not out yet to my knowledge.

 

[Offboost]

The R springs do not lower the car. The R is lower because of 30 series tires instead of 35 series on the non-R.

Ford Performance has announced lowering springs for the GT350 that should come out april-may. Should also be stiffer than R, although final specs are not out yet to my knowledge.

The Rs have different shock dampning charectoristics to allow for faster wheel compression and rebound to work in conjuction with carbon wheels the Rs have springs are the same rate its the shocks that are doing the most.

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