Dyno results comparison Whipple Stage 2

[desant89]

Ok, went to Dyno and arrived with Whipple tune (Blue) in my car. Dyno'd that, and then switched to my tune from Ken B (Red). Driving the car obviously cannot be seen here, but throttle response is insanely different between the two. I understand Whipple does not touch that, and that anyone can buy a Pedalmax, but I am just pointing out that this dyno is not the only difference. Shift points and the shifts themselves are also significantly different. I have Ken looking at that dip around 6500rpms, and will likely hit the track soon. Again, these are just numbers. I could not agree more as I see people with less things done making more power than me on their Whipple tune. But this is fair since same dyno, and I let the car cool down the same for each also. This is not saying one is better, just showing differences. Hell, most of you can read this chart much better than I can.

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[evo8904]

I can't wait to see what you run

 

[Roh92cp]

What is the difference you feel in drivability between the 2 calibrations. By the way Whipple does recalibrate the throttle map extensively. Do you know what total timing and A/F ratio you had with the Ken B calibration.

 

[evo8904]

What is the difference you feel in drivability between the 2 calibrations. By the way Whipple does recalibrate the throttle map extensively. Do you know what total timing and A/F ratio you had with the Ken B calibration.

I saw the logs. Ken is running 1 degree more than whipple's at the top of the RPMs. A/F on both at similar at around .78 lambda. Both tunes look great.

 

[desant89]

I saw the logs. Ken is running 1 degree more than whipple's at the top of the RPMs. A/F on both at similar at around .78 lambda. Both tunes look great.

you sure? The latest I had looked like up top Whipple was slightly higher in timing.......Stay tuned, new thread coming up in a minute!

 

[desant89]

What is the difference you feel in drivability between the 2 calibrations. By the way Whipple does recalibrate the throttle map extensively. Do you know what total timing and A/F ratio you had with the Ken B calibration.

The car is just more fun to drive. More sensitive. Honestly, if Whipple does that, it is not in my cal. Drives exactly like stock. No boost at all til at least 40+% throttle. I thought it was known that Whipple does not touch that. I have driven both tunes back to back several times too.

 

[evo8904]

you sure? The latest I had looked like up top Whipple was slightly higher in timing.......Stay tuned, new thread coming up in a minute!

Yeah, at the top of the rpms before the operator let off the throttle. I definitely see the whipple's cal adjusting. I would love to see what happens with some octanium mixed in a 1/4 tank of 93 lol.

 

[PowerAdderGT]

Both dyno's look good, but Ken will work with you to optimize the tune. At the track the removed TQ management will make the KenB tune much faster than the dyno indicates.

 

[desant89]

Both dyno's look good, but Ken will work with you to optimize the tune. At the track the removed TQ management will make the KenB tune much faster than the dyno indicates.

I ran it earlier today. I forgot laptop to log which is a killer. I think Ken can fix that drop-off in the dyno around 6500, and also I tapped rev limiter on most shifts. That will be addressed too. Overall I was happy with my first time out. I know cooler weather and a tune update, and me learning to drive it better will get me a better times.

 

[sonic]

What were the dyno numbers? the pic wont load

 

[desant89]

Yeah, at the top of the rpms before the operator let off the throttle. I definitely see the whipple's cal adjusting. I would love to see what happens with some octanium mixed in a 1/4 tank of 93 lol.

I see it now. Just really compared the logs. Whipple ran more timing all the up to 7100 RPMS though. Then Ken's ran .5 more from there to 7500 and a full degree more from 7500 til finished.

 

[Evolvd]

I can't see the dynograph either.

 

[desant89]

I can't see the dynograph either.

Ok, I got it now. I was putting in a BMP. Did not realize needed to be jpg. Clear now. Thanks!

 

[Whipple SC]

The car is just more fun to drive. More sensitive. Honestly, if Whipple does that, it is not in my cal. Drives exactly like stock. No boost at all til at least 40+% throttle. I thought it was known that Whipple does not touch that. I have driven both tunes back to back several times too.

The throttle is 132mm, you can't leave anything stock. Throttle settings are set in the middle, not to aggressive, not to soft. As for boost at 40%, boost is a factor of load and expected torque. You can have boost at 20% throttle depending on load.

 

[Roh92cp]

Did you experience any hesitation issues with the Whipple calibration?

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