Do you need NAV?

[GiddyUp15]

It has aux in, any mp3/phone/tablet will work wired.

Then you have to have two wires streaming about to keep it charging. Also, depending on the car/radio, if it is streaming through USB you can also pause, skip tracks, etc. via the radio/steering wheel controls. Can't do that via Aux. True, bluetooth is probably the more common way nowadays but some of the older cars don't have that, which is sounds like what Asharus is talking about.

back in 2009, i got sick of always fixing my wife's dell laptop due to sluggishness, viruses, broken hinges, etc. so i decided to get her a macbook pro and just call it a day. i planned on just telling her "you know more about that thing than i do, fix it yourself" if she ever needed help with it.

well, after i played around with it, i realized how awesome it was.

today, over 5 years later, the macbook still performs as well as it did when she first opened the box. i never had to do a fresh install of the OS, defrag, nothing. truly amazing.

i'd like to replace my gaming rig with a mac, but there are still some games that require windows, which is probably the only reason i still have a pc.

That is a nice thing...They also hold their value phenomenally well. I bought an old iPhone 4 on eBay to use as my trade-in for the iPhone 6 and they are still selling for $75-100...for a 2010 model phone! My Android from 2010 is now a brick sitting in a box somewhere in my basement...lol

Oh but it really is. Why would any company other than Apple lock into an Apple proprietary connection.

I know you're obviously going to disagree but anyone that locks into Apple is a sucker.
Why would anyone lock into products that don't offer choice, have proprietary connectivity, and don't support open standards like microUSB, Qi, Miracast and NFC.

I'm not an Android users but Apple is falling behind. If you don't like the S5, fine. How many devices would you like to chose from of different price points, size, functionality and power.
They are playing catchup in functionality, the UI is dated, quality is not what it used to be, design is stagnant.

For a company that used to be considered innovative (I would argue they never were), until the watch they hadn't released a new product for almost 5 years. That's not innovative, that's embarrassing.

I agree their innovation has lacked for some time. I didn't care for Apple at all until I gave the iPhone 5 a shot. They took forever to get LTE which is why I bashed the 4 and 4s so much, but the 5 was pretty solid. My major complaints were: the smaller screen (had the S3 before), the tiny keyboard, and no third-party keyboards. The 6 has fixed all that. Also, the 6 has NFC now, not that I really felt I needed it for anything, but the payment stuff seems to be all NFC (Apple was banking on it being bluetooth). At first, I also complained about lack of SD card slot, and the micro-USB, but the Lightning connector is much better, even if it is not common, it is easier to connect, less prone to damage, and REVERSIBLE!! Still annoying that Apple won't let other accessory companies use it, like on battery cases, bluetooth, etc. Also, my wife had a Motorola Razr for the last two years while I had the 5. Her mom also had an Android and so did a friend of mine. All three of them have had SD cards go bad, losing all the data/photos/etc. that was on those cards! I'm okay with paying a little more for built-in flash memory that Apple uses instead!

Once you get into the Apple ecosystem, it is hard not to stick with them. It is cool how iMessage syncs with iPad, among a lot of other things (even wifi credentials sync between devices!) I don't have a Mac so I can't attest for those features but I'm told a lot of things sync real well between those too.

Side note on NFC: I work for Schlage Lock as an engineer, and we have new locks that will use BLE (bluetooth low-energy) rather than NFC because it is more reliable for connection, range, faster read, and is still low-power consumption. We have NFC available on some commercial locks too, but for the cell-phone-credentials the BLE is the way to go.

Bottom line, IMO, Androids are nice, and they do a lot of things well, and have been more innovative recently. I think for whatever reason Apple took a backseat approach to see what the market demanded, then played "catch-up" like you said. I always told people if the iPhone 6 didn't have a larger screen I was likely going back to an Android. Anyway, I like both, but the edge goes to Apple on software reliability alone, IMO. Everyone has different opinions, and needs obviously. Either way I like that they are competing with each other, even bashing each other in commercials, etc., because the free market is good for everyone, no matter which device you prefer! They will always be trying to catch-up or one-up each other, so the consumer always wins.

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[GiddyUp15]

- USB Key loaded with music - keep your phone for other things and no worry about draining/charging

That's what I do in my Fusion, which works awesome. I have a 16GB jump drive I bought cheap ($20 or something) that I keep plugged in at all times. It is nice that in my Fusion the USB is hidden in the console, but in the new Mustang it sits right out there in front, so the USB drive sticking out may be an eyesore and/or in the way of things. I might get one of those miniature jump drives for the Mustang so it is more flush and out of the way. I like this way, and Sync works great with it (you can say "Play artist xxx" etc.

But if you like Pandora, which I do like to do every now and then, bluetooth is the way to go. I haven't even tried it via USB on my phones, since I usually charge from the cig lighter since that charges faster, at least on my Fusion. I read the new Mustang USB is a higher voltage so it should be suitable for charging directly, which will be nice.

 

[geokots]

That's what I do in my Fusion, which works awesome. I have a 16GB jump drive I bought cheap ($20 or something) that I keep plugged in at all times. It is nice that in my Fusion the USB is hidden in the console, but in the new Mustang it sits right out there in front, so the USB drive sticking out may be an eyesore and/or in the way of things. I might get one of those miniature jump drives for the Mustang so it is more flush and out of the way. I like this way, and Sync works great with it (you can say "Play artist xxx" etc.

But if you like Pandora, which I do like to do every now and then, bluetooth is the way to go. I haven't even tried it via USB on my phones, since I usually charge from the cig lighter since that charges faster, at least on my Fusion. I read the new Mustang USB is a higher voltage so it should be suitable for charging directly, which will be nice.

There is a USB In the console. It has one in the front and one inside the console. It'll also support 2.5" drives so you can get a lot more storage at a reasonable price if needed.

Yes the Mustang support higher voltage for USB charging. I think it's 2.1a.

 

[GiddyUp15]

There is a USB In the console. It has one in the front and one inside the console. It'll also support 2.5" drives so you can get a lot more storage at a reasonable price if needed.

Yes the Mustang support higher voltage for USB charging. I think it's 2.1a.

Oh awesome! I forgot that they did say there are two USBs in the new Mustang. Great news for me then :-) I don't have THAT much music anyway, so a 32gb or 64gb jump drive will work fine for me. I've seen some on Best Buy "deal of the day" for cheap $20-30.

 

[DonLafond]

That's what I do in my Fusion, which works awesome. I have a 16GB jump drive I bought cheap ($20 or something) that I keep plugged in at all times. It is nice that in my Fusion the USB is hidden in the console, but in the new Mustang it sits right out there in front, so the USB drive sticking out may be an eyesore and/or in the way of things. I might get one of those miniature jump drives for the Mustang so it is more flush and out of the way. I like this way, and Sync works great with it (you can say "Play artist xxx" etc.

But if you like Pandora, which I do like to do every now and then, bluetooth is the way to go. I haven't even tried it via USB on my phones, since I usually charge from the cig lighter since that charges faster, at least on my Fusion. I read the new Mustang USB is a higher voltage so it should be suitable for charging directly, which will be nice.

Here is a picture of the hidden USB in the center console.

I personally plan to stream Pandora via Bluetooth. It works as long as you have a cell signal.

 

[GiddyUp15]

Oh so are there three USBs? I thought there was one in front of dash too? Looks like there are two in the console.

 

[acgott]

From the aspect of bluetooth streaming, in my mom's 2013 FX2 with MFT, Pandora starts and stops streaming when the truck is started/turned off and can be selectable. You can have different phones connected, one for the phone portion and one for streaming. We have actually had my mom's phone connected while streaming the audio from a basketball game in her truck.

 

[geokots]

Oh so are there three USBs? I thought there was one in front of dash too? Looks like there are two in the console.

See we got you covered
Now go sell that fruit phone

 

[Asharus]

Then you have to have two wires streaming about to keep it charging. Also, depending on the car/radio, if it is streaming through USB you can also pause, skip tracks, etc. via the radio/steering wheel controls. Can't do that via Aux. True, bluetooth is probably the more common way nowadays but some of the older cars don't have that, which is sounds like what Asharus is talking about.

exactly what i'm talking about. just for comparisons sake alone, while my wife's sentra can stream via bluetooth and usb, if it's connected via usb, the pandora thumb up/down gets thrown to her nav screen. when connected via bluetooth, it does not. it will probably be a similar situation on ford sync.

That is a nice thing...They also hold their value phenomenally well. I bought an old iPhone 4 on eBay to use as my trade-in for the iPhone 6 and they are still selling for $75-100...for a 2010 model phone! My Android from 2010 is now a brick sitting in a box somewhere in my basement...lol

i upgrade my iphone every year because i have access to two lines (my wife's also). so i upgrade and give her my old one every year. then i sell the 2 year old phone for over 200 bucks on ebay every time. great value....

At first, I also complained about lack of SD card slot, and the micro-USB, but the Lightning connector is much better, even if it is not common, it is easier to connect, less prone to damage, and REVERSIBLE!!

the other nice thing about lightning cables, if you ever break one, just have apple send you a new one for free and slap the broken one in the return envelope, free of charge. or of course just walk into a store and swap it out there.

i work for a company that manufactures mobile devices which use the same android microusb cables. they are definitely more fragile (more at the connector on the device, than the plug itself) i was dreading the idea of giving my S5 to my wife after 1 year, since she's extremely rough with phones. im sure the connector woudlve been broken after 2 weeks, and the dust/waterproof cover wouldve went missing after 2 days.

 

[DonLafond]

exactly what i'm talking about. just for comparisons sake alone, while my wife's sentra can stream via bluetooth and usb, if it's connected via usb, the pandora thumb up/down gets thrown to her nav screen. when connected via bluetooth, it does not. it will probably be a similar situation on ford sync.



i upgrade my iphone every year because i have access to two lines (my wife's also). so i upgrade and give her my old one every year. then i sell the 2 year old phone for over 200 bucks on ebay every time. great value....


the other nice thing about lightning cables, if you ever break one, just have apple send you a new one for free and slap the broken one in the return envelope, free of charge. or of course just walk into a store and swap it out there.

i work for a company that manufactures mobile devices which use the same android microusb cables. they are definitely more fragile (more at the connector on the device, than the plug itself) i was dreading the idea of giving my S5 to my wife after 1 year, since she's extremely rough with phones. im sure the connector woudlve been broken after 2 weeks, and the dust/waterproof cover wouldve went missing after 2 days.

This is not really a I-Phone vs. Android thread.:threadjacked:

Can we get back on topic - the NAV system. Smart phone, regardless of brand, will be able to communicate with Ford's system one way or another

 

[Anthony]

Five or ten years from now, nobody's going to buy a car without navigation. You'll cut your potential used buyers' market by 80%.

I bought my 69 camaro 5/6 years ago. No fuel injection, No nav, no power windows/locks, no 15 way power seat, no lumbar, no heated/cooled seats...... I could go on. Kinda cuts into your argument doesn't it?

People buy what they like, can afford. Navigation is on every cell phone sold.

Garmin gps's are $99 everywhere. Tell me why $800 from ford is better if I need Gps once a month? If it was reasonably priced I would have ordered it too. Say $250/$300 at most.

I have a 2011 f150, 2014 fusion, 69 camaro and just sold my 08 gt/cs to buy the 15 mustang. Of the 3 newer cars, I would have spent $800x3=$2400 on ford branded gps..... Or the garmin I use in all of them....... $199. Heck I use that gps on my Polaris sportsman too! And the camaro for that matter.

80% is almost a laughable statistic

 

[geokots]

Tell me why $800 from ford is better if I need Gps once a month? If it was reasonably priced I would have ordered it too. Say $250/$300 at most.

Especially since the main cost is already there with the MFT system. All you're paying for is the GPS antenna and software.

 

[JoeySD]

Any updates with the recent Apple iOS updates...is Car Play finally on now in the s550? I'd prefer this option rather than paying the extra money for the Nav.

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