COBB Accessport Custom Feature Overview

[ScottyP3821]

So bumping an old thread. there isn't a fix yet for the rev hang? Been driving mine around a bit, and so far that's the only thing that pisses me off.

What rev hang? You mean the heavy ass flywheel that comes stock so newb people to manual trans cars have time to shift?


Damn Kyle my <3 goes out to you bud. You and your team build what I would consider the most successful tuning software and people hate on mechanical things unrelated.

I have a background tuning cars with Megasquirt and for your OTS maps being canned tunes they are very nice.

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[Impulsed7]

or, when you mess with it and it revs itself back up? (messed with me the first time it did it) It holds revs, regardless of the weight of the flywheel. I will be going to a single mass steel at some point, but that's another time.

 

[l2frankie]

curious to know what a lighter flywheel will do. ours is 60 lbs right?

 

[Impulsed7]

30 something lbs, looks to be a BMW copy, so probably 38 or so. Just don't go too light with a turbo 4 unless going full race.

 

[ahduckit]

Don't put it map five on the tach. You'll run 16sec quarter miles lmao. Map 1 on the tach is awesome though.

 

[Alloy]

With the 5 way switching feature, is a tuner able to combine seperate "tunes?"

What I'm wanting to have is:

slot 1 for Best Performance 93
Slot 2 Eco 93
Slot 3 open
Slot 4 Valet mode (won't go over 35mph)
Slot 5 Anti theft (won't start)

I want to have the tuner kept at home. Right now if i wanna take it in for service, I have to hook up the tuner and switch to valet maps and then undo it once i get the car back, rather than just flicking the cruise control switch.

One of the most developed ECUs we support are those of the Ford EcoBoost Platforms. These benefit from custom features on the Accessport such as Launch Control, Flat Foot Shifting, and 5-Way Map Switching. You’ve probably heard of these features before but how do they actually benefit you in the real world and on the track?

5-Way Map Switching

The EcoBoost platform is pretty versatile from the factory. It has the built-in capability to optimize different octane fuels. It can take advantage of higher octane fuel to make more power and can also prevent things from getting out of hand when using lesser quality fuel. This is done with the OAR variable in the factory ECU logic. COBB has taken this versatility a step further with the 5-Way Map Switching Feature. You can seamlessly switch between maps in real time using your Cruise Control buttons! A few instances where this can be beneficial:

Other Drivers – Whether it be a teen-aged child, an inexperienced friend, the spouse with too many accidents, or that valet guy with the grin that’s a little too big, you can use the 5-Way Map Switching feature to enable a more suitable map for specific drivers.

Changing conditions – If the weather turns for the worst, the road surface becomes poor, or any other reason your tires no longer inspire confidence, it comes in handy to have a map that offers less than the peak performance.

More MPGs – Optimal tuning will typically increase the miles per gallon you achieve. Even with our performance tunes, many report an increase in MPGs. BUT, it must also be paired with optimal driving. And let’s face it, it’s difficult with the added power to stay out of the smile inducing high boost zones. The Economy Mode map removes the driver’s ability to create excessive fuel demands by limiting the amount of airmass that can be generated. Additionally, fuel during Wide Open Throttle (WOT) conditions as well as ignition timing are optimized in Economy mode to aid efficient combustion. This results in minor gains in fuel economy, while preventing a heavy foot from robbing gas from the tank.

At the Track – If you’ve been to the drag strip, you know it’s not always who has the most power but who can get the most power to the ground. Using the adjustable maps to instantly change between different boost levels, fuel types, different Launch Control RPMs, or custom tunes that adjust boost by gear, ignition strategies and/or several other parameters provides limitless options; one of which will surely get you your best ET! For those concerned most with drag racing over daily driving, the switchable map feature offers better test and tuning sessions. Without having to constantly re-flash the ECU, you can get more passes in, and dial in your car much more quickly.

Launch Control

It’s tough to be a car person and not have the occasional drag race cross your mind. Whether it be at your local track, or a desolate road in "Mexico", lining up against a friend (or nemesis) to see who is faster never gets old. When those times come, we all want every advantage we can get! Launch Control (LC) is one of those advantages.

It can be difficult to hold the RPMs steady to get a good launch, especially in a manual transmission car. COBB’s Launch Control allows you to floor the gas pedal at the starting line and hold a specific RPM! This enables the potential to build boost off the line and allows for more consistent launches. This value can also be adjusted to adapt to the current surface, tires, power, or weather conditions! Spinning out of the hole? Lower the RPM! Bogging? Raise it up! A good launch is crucial for fast and consistent ETs. Having a couple of tenths advantage in the first 60 feet of any race can mean the difference in winning and losing even if your competition has more power.

Flat Foot Shifting

Technology has come a long way when it comes to transmissions and many super cars are now only being offered with an “Auto.” Even if these high-tech transmissions are capable of shifting faster than any human, many of us still prefer kicking in a clutch and slapping a shifter. In a race, are we giving up anything other than the timing it takes to shift when challenging an Auto driver? In turbo car, the answer is most definitely yes. But, Flat Foot Shifting (FFS) or “No-Lift to Shift” is a great way to overcome some of the disadvantages.

The graph above was done at WOT and inspects boost recovery after a shift under the two different conditions. Using FFS, boost never falls below ~10.5psi on the shift; on a regular shift, boost falls down to essentially full vacuum (-9psi).

This particular instance shows 3rd-4th gear rips first using a traditional hard and fast shift, and then again using COBB FFS. No tuning changes or otherwise have been made, simply disconnected after doing the first run, set FFS to 5500 RPM on the Accessport and went again.

Shifting with the throttle plate fully open allows for boost to be kept “up” and recover nearly instantaneously after engaging the next gear. This is as close to a DCT-style shift as any manual car will ever get!

The gist? COBB 5-Way Map switching, Launch Control, and Flat Foot Shifting flat out work. Use them and get the advantage!

Kyle@COBB

 

[EcoSwag1990]

Right now if i wanna take it in for service, I have to hook up the tuner and switch to valet maps and then undo it once i get the car back, rather than just flicking the cruise control switch.

I'm pretty sure you have to flash the car back to stock before taking it in for service or else they won't be able to access the ECU

 

[MAPerformance]

With the 5 way switching feature, is a tuner able to combine seperate "tunes?"

What I'm wanting to have is:

slot 1 for Best Performance 93
Slot 2 Eco 93
Slot 3 open
Slot 4 Valet mode (won't go over 35mph)
Slot 5 Anti theft (won't start)

I want to have the tuner kept at home. Right now if i wanna take it in for service, I have to hook up the tuner and switch to valet maps and then undo it once i get the car back, rather than just flicking the cruise control switch.

On my customers E-tunes, if they request multiple maps like you asked above I set it for them. For Valet I set the rpm to 2500 max, and 0 boost. Here is how I setup the last one;

1 - Max Power
2 - Economy
3 - Valet
4 - Medium performance

 

[Mattney]

Adam, was there additional cost for doing this if the customer purchased the AP from you? Also would it cost more to have you make a tune with the mods that person has done to their car when they purchase from you?

On my customers E-tunes, if they request multiple maps like you asked above I set it for them. For Valet I set the rpm to 2500 max, and 0 boost. Here is how I setup the last one;

1 - Max Power
2 - Economy
3 - Valet
4 - Medium performance

 

[MAPerformance]

Adam, was there additional cost for doing this if the customer purchased the AP from you? Also would it cost more to have you make a tune with the mods that person has done to their car when they purchase from you?

I don't want to thread jack, so I sent you a pm!

 

[MakStang]

I know it's an old thread, but I need to ask a question (if someone still follows this thread).

Is there any way that I can use the Accessport in order to measure my vehicle's torque and hp (either engine's or rear wheels)? I thing there is a such a data monitor on the Accessport made for Subaru, but I could not figure out which one to use on the Accessport for Mustang. Even an indirect way to measure torque and hp would be fine.

I need this because I would like to monitor the effect of mods (exhaust, intercooler, tuning) on my car's performance.

 

[BoosTang23T]

I am getting a pre-owned Cobb AP V3. I am excited to get it and was wondering if anyone can help me on what the best tune flash to use. I only have the K&N high flow filter and the MBRP catback Race Exhaust. Based on Cobb Stage 1 should be equivalent. Is this correct? Also, Stage 2 and Stage 3 are based on Cobb parts, what happens if you have other brands? For instance, I will be going for the Mishimoto IC and the MBRP Downpipe + Cat Coverter (to complete the exhaust system and avoid any problems). Will doing the Stage 2 or Stage 3 work for this setup? Or is it best to do a custom Tune like Adam?

 

[jbailer]

I am getting a pre-owned Cobb AP V3. I am excited to get it and was wondering if anyone can help me on what the best tune flash to use. I only have the K&N high flow filter and the MBRP catback Race Exhaust. Based on Cobb Stage 1 should be equivalent. Is this correct? Also, Stage 2 and Stage 3 are based on Cobb parts, what happens if you have other brands? For instance, I will be going for the Mishimoto IC and the MBRP Downpipe + Cat Coverter (to complete the exhaust system and avoid any problems). Will doing the Stage 2 or Stage 3 work for this setup? Or is it best to do a custom Tune like Adam?

You can do up to stage 2 which uses intake and catback. Both of them make very little difference even if you still had stock. The differentiator is moving to stage 3 which requires the FMIC and DP. I wouldn't run the stage 3 without those upgrades. It would be fine to use those upgrades from another vendor though.

 

[BoosTang23T]

You can do up to stage 2 which uses intake and catback. Both of them make very little difference even if you still had stock. The differentiator is moving to stage 3 which requires the FMIC and DP. I wouldn't run the stage 3 without those upgrades. It would be fine to use those upgrades from another vendor though.

Stage 2 requires a CAI system. I have the stock air box with the K&N high air flow. Does that matter or still can do Stage 2? Do you know the HP/TQ gains? I know it varies on car setup and what not, but an average more or less?

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