Catch Can Not Catching

[danzo]

I installed a Mishimoto Catch Can 900 miles ago toward the end of June. I checked it today to get a baseline. At first I thought it was totally void of anything, til I looked inside the canister with a bright light. It looked to have a thin, shiny film in the inside but was otherwise empty. I took a tissue paper and totally wiped out the inside of the canister and the result was a brown oil film on the tissue representing about the equivalent of two/three drops of oil. The inside of the catch can does smell like the inside of the block. I've read guys reporting like a teaspoon of catch after 500-1000 miles. I've double and tripple checked the installation and it is spot on according to instructional videos. I will admit that I've been driving it more conservatively than usual due to the summer heat and my desire to minimize the charge temp heat soak issue. But, I haven't exactly been babying it either. Am I really getting an abnormally small amount of catch, and if so, does anybody know why?

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[Punchy04]

I've been getting the same results as you have. Not a bad thing but I also guess it depends on how much you drive your stang everyday too. I'm only 15 mins away from work so not allot of miles going on every day. I've had my Mustang since January and only put 4500 miles on her.

 

[Glenn G]

This is a good thing! Catching a lot of oil indicates high crankcase pressure. I'm thinking the people catching lots of oil might have a slight leak from the rings. Once your oil gets older and thinner and as your engine ages you will start catching more. At 270k miles my supra put out quite a bit but still had decent compression.

 

[jtmat]

Maybe there is nothing to catch?

Since I don't have one, I'm hoping that is the case. :-)

 

[Edkiefer]

Since this catch can is installed between block mounted PCV to intake manifold .
This will only catch vapors in part throttle (no boost) conditions, as value is closed when boost happens .
Have you inspected the breather hose , the one going from valve cover to turbo intake , that is the one that generally gets wet under boost .

These are new engines so you shouldn't get much until many miles , cars with the breather tube going back to TB need cleaning over time, but with most turbo cars it goes to turbo inlet .

 

[Punchy04]

Bomba just made a catch can for the turbo side. Thinking of picking up one.

 

[Nihil]

Bomba just made a catch can for the turbo side. Thinking of picking up one.

The price is step for those tho, if you want a PCV side CC you can just buy a quality baffled can for about $80 then route in two hoses from the PCV sensor to the can then to the intake, save yourself some money or get the dual valve can for $250 from UPR to cover both CCV and PCV

 

[juan_tony1]

So upr can does both pcv side and turbo side?

 

[NewSVO]

Mine catches a stupid amount of oil lol I got a car made by a blind guy on a friday probably. I have UPR single though

 

[Edkiefer]

So upr can does both pcv side and turbo side?

quick search , I think he means this .

http://www.uprproducts.com/mustang-billet-single-valve-catch-can-separator-15-ecoboost.html

My post above was not to say, there needs or its a problem , just what to look for and where .

 

[Nihil]

PCV is on the turbo/air intake side - it comes off the valve cover area and has a sensor in between and runs to your air intake.
CCV is under the intake manifold and runs from the block to right behind the throttle body....this is where most of the catch cans go currently.
The UPR dual setup for $250 connects to both.

 

[juan_tony1]

Thanks for the link ed....why does it ask for intake size? Do they come in different sizes? Also does the single upr filter the same line as the single mishi can? Does the dual upr cover both sides? Sorry for all the questions but kind of lost if haven't noticed :headbonk:

 

[Edkiefer]

PCV is on the turbo/air intake side - it comes off the valve cover area and has a sensor in between and runs to your air intake.
CCV is under the intake manifold and runs from the block to right behind the throttle body....this is where most of the catch cans go currently.
The UPR dual setup for $250 connects to both.

You sure about that ?
I don't have ecoboost but the PCV goes to intake manifold in all turbo cars I have seen .
One this one the PVC is in that block mounted plate on driver side . There a post around here of guys gutting the PCV to fix issue of oil going down exhaust pipe with AC on (low idle conditions ).

The hose that goes from valve cover to turbo intake is breather one .
Note: I don't know whats up with fords parts naming but seems wrong to me , they do call the breather hose the PVC hose and the PCV valve and block cover CC .

http://www.fordparts.com/Commerce/P...search=true&year=2015&make=Ford&model=Mustang

http://www.fordparts.com/Commerce/P...search=true&year=2015&make=Ford&model=Mustang

 

[Nihil]

Sorry I had the terminology mixed up, its all the CCV or something and PCV is the part under the intake manifold. but there are two places for venting

PCV on most cars ive had came off the valve cover and to the throttle body, but they call the one coming from valve cover to the air intake the "makeup air line"

http://engineering.mishimoto.com/20...system-part-1-introduction-and-project-plans/

 

[Edkiefer]

Sorry I had the terminology mixed up, its all the CCV or something and PCV is the part under the intake manifold. but there are two places for venting

PCV on most cars ive had came off the valve cover and to the throttle body, but they call the one coming from valve cover to the air intake the "makeup air line"

http://engineering.mishimoto.com/20...system-part-1-introduction-and-project-plans/

Yeh, I follow you, I was just trying to explain, if others might get confused .

Edit: finally found post to pics of PCV.
http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showpost.php?p=641249&postcount=524

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