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would be hilarious if motorcraft is rebadged Mobil 1. People lose way too much sleep thinking about oil. Porsche 919 Hybrid race car uses Mobil 1 straight out of the bottle, but not good enough for a Ford
Destro
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I have to admit, I would laugh.
Some people lose way too much sleep thinking about things that may cause other people to lose way too much sleep. It's a vicious cycle.
ShadowBlackR
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Rock Auto's everyday price on the Motorcraft oil is $7.01 (must buy in case quantities). My shipping was $6.99 for a total of $91.11 a case. They also have the FL2069ST filters for $14.56 and the cartridge FL2062 for $4.95
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MAV
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Someone told me Motorcraft motor oil is made by Conoco Phillips. I don't know that for sure, just repeating what I heard.
Mobil 1 0W-40 FS has the most complete additive package of the M1 lineup. It's a GTL oil, so the base is good too.
Mobil 1 0W-40 FS has the most complete additive package of the M1 lineup. It's a GTL oil, so the base is good too.
Stuntman
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Conoco/Phillips makes Motorcraft, not Mobil 1.
The OEM Motorcraft 5W50 quickly shears down to a 40-weight within the first hundred miles or so. In practicality, it's very similar in weight to Mobil 1 0W40 -which is an excellent oil.
Redline, Motul, Mobil 1, and Amsoil 5W50s are thick 50-weights and don't shear down much, so this will cause the cold start up oil pressures to be even higher than stock and make your oil pump work harder. The stock 100psi+ is fine for the Voodoo as long as you don't rev the piss or load it hard when cold like most idiots do at Cars & Coffee. Let it warm up, get the oil pressure down, then have fun.
Also keep in mind that thinner oils cool better than thicker oils. Just look at the Used Oil Analysis (UOA) of these oils to verify. Because of this, you can easily make the case that these 5W50s are much worse than Mobil 1 0W40.
If you're going with a higher end oil like Motul or Amsoil, I would pick a 0W40 or 5W40 over a 5W50.
The OEM Motorcraft 5W50 quickly shears down to a 40-weight within the first hundred miles or so. In practicality, it's very similar in weight to Mobil 1 0W40 -which is an excellent oil.
Redline, Motul, Mobil 1, and Amsoil 5W50s are thick 50-weights and don't shear down much, so this will cause the cold start up oil pressures to be even higher than stock and make your oil pump work harder. The stock 100psi+ is fine for the Voodoo as long as you don't rev the piss or load it hard when cold like most idiots do at Cars & Coffee. Let it warm up, get the oil pressure down, then have fun.
Also keep in mind that thinner oils cool better than thicker oils. Just look at the Used Oil Analysis (UOA) of these oils to verify. Because of this, you can easily make the case that these 5W50s are much worse than Mobil 1 0W40.
If you're going with a higher end oil like Motul or Amsoil, I would pick a 0W40 or 5W40 over a 5W50.
nastang87xx
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What is happening to our little corner of the internet...:lol:Care to elaborate.
MAV
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Correct. That's what I said. Exxon makes Mobil 1.
It does shear, but I think it's dependent on conditions, driving style, etc. This is an older thread, but the data collected at the time is interesting: https://www.*******************/forums/threads/official-gt-5-0-boss-302-uoa-thread.805918/
I know that several oils in that spreadsheet have gone through reformulation since then, M1 0w-40 being one of them. Not sure about Motorcraft.
For enzo and others considering: I didn't take the switch from Ford's recommendation lightly. I researched a ton of info and came to my own conclusions. I recommend you do the same, and if your conclusions are to stay with MC 5w-50, then you should do so.
However, considering my own use of the car and style of driving, UOAs from multiple sources and brands, and also considering the multiple factors that most certainly went into the final recommendation in the owner's manual, it came down to M1 0w-40 FS as my preferred oil after break-in. I am still researching, and I am strongly considering looking at Pennzoil Ultra-Platinum as an alternative to M1 because it has high marks across the board as well.
But one thing is for certain - splitting hairs over motor oil is not typically time well spent. If you're obsessive, go for it, but you're not likely to go wrong by simply sticking to Ford's recommendation.
Edit: Oh, that's right...can't link to the "other" forum. Sorry, look it up.
Eritas
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Mobil 1 0w40 is great stuff. IIRC, Pennzoil had a real big problem with foaming or aeration. I've used Mobil 1 0w40 in my BMWs for years and my uoas were always excellent and the cams looked beautiful after 150K.
Some oils like Shell TWS 10w60 are thick initially and then shears down to a thinner oil due to the additive package being thicker when brand new but operationally runs as a 50 weight. It sounds like OEM motorcraft does the same from a 50 down to a 40.
Some oils like Shell TWS 10w60 are thick initially and then shears down to a thinner oil due to the additive package being thicker when brand new but operationally runs as a 50 weight. It sounds like OEM motorcraft does the same from a 50 down to a 40.
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