BlueCollarDaily
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I can't take it anymore I just want to move on. I've never really had new cars before I usually take something older build it like I want then get my use out of it and/or meet someone I really thing would enjoy it or enjoy finishing it ect. Kinda paying it forward.
I've run into a situation where I've bought my first new car in December of 19, it still only has 5k miles with the seat and glove box tags still on.
I've never gotten to enjoy the car if it's not sitting because Supercharger warranty starts at mileage installed and their on back order, then waiting on installer window, then trouble shooting initial issues now resolved with most the kits ....then less than pleased with results losing power belt slip ect. Upgrade to Stage 2 which theoretically takes care of all my Stage 1 issues like slip and how I didnt like the trans schedule the same as stock when I've added 200hp....ect ect..
Same waiting game with stage 2, waiting on it to come in multiple shipments as they were messed up and still didnt receive all on the 2nd shipment ( first upgrade customer ), waiting on installer cause though I gave myself a 5 day window for shipping screw ups it wasnt enough with the multiple shipment errors..so missed my window again and he is pissed again...wait weeks to get it in and back....
Take it home that evening fill up with fuel at same station for last 6 years 93 nitro +.....head out to country to test Stage 2 first time it shifts to second blows engine...
You can imagine the engine replacement ordeal especially with me a liason with Ford fighting 2 ends simultaneously. Had already dropped a retainer when both sides come together ( I will say some lawyers are great she kept the retainer BUT said I could retrieve it IF she did nothing the first time she even sent a message with her letter head it was gone, and to me it was a significant amount she did return it just like she said when all sides come together...very awesome).
Get it home carefully put 920 miles on engine every 100 miles past 400.started letting it shift itself out 500rpm higher till a max of 4000 was reached. Used hills to add load to seat rings without as much rpm ( a tuning trick I used on GM stuff decel tuning as well).
Logging the entire time on the 91 tune with 93 fuel...sending in and getting thumbs up progressively more till at 920 miles we done a single gear pull manually let out on shift. Thumbs up on the log took back out to same spot it shifts to 3rd again rattles like an UZI at the bottom of 3rd ( 1st was feathering this is limited traction ) full knock retard 0 timing noses over....dejavu....
Tried everything was asked by the company to try it with 5 gals on ms109 today same results just delayed a gear and a little less dramatic.....
But a year later I've spent 13k, blown an engine this one feels blown now......I havent been to track, raced any of the cars gearing down on my cruising ( I know they think why you got it then grey beard).I havent had a single pass in smash in stage 2 across 2 engines and nothing seems to help...I can see the cat temp is getting nuts and the knock coincides with the fuel source swapping to exhaust temp table. Cats read as high as 2000....
I cant remember a single good time in the car, I was talked into buying my first nice car and turn key supercharger system because of my families concerns about my health. I've been keeping a 1000-1200hp 67 Camaro going as my near daily for almost 30 years...and this is no joke I've worked on and hurt myself more since I've had this new car than last 5 years on the 67 combined. With my commitments to show I'd hazard I've got well more than 5k miles on the last iteration of the build 1000 street hits and 50 track...
I have nothing to show from spending 52k except something pretty to look at in the drive way.
I've never done one like this before I have no intentions of lying honestly the fact it has a May29th 2019 build engine should be a plus cause it was quite as a mouse compared to the first one a really good sounding engine....so sad....
1. I'm thinking return to stage 1, I have to full kit and sell including tuner to individual or trade in.
2. Trade in as is....
3. Return to complete stock, I just added a catback as I was told it might help ( and did actually I think ). Its not super loud and has no drone I'm an old man and wanted it that way not sure if they toss my stock stuff yet just had it done in desperation.
Lund wont tune it on the stock boost wants me to return boost levels to stage 1 and I cant see spending 6k for an upgrade of 3psi, just to spend another 1000 ( Lund tune, griptec pulley, and belt ) to return it to the same psi it was before....that shit sandwich would have corn in it......
Weary if no one knows what's going on, no one wants to touch it or can help me after months and months I still cant enjoy the brand new car and it's already had one engine replaced. I just spent $100 on racing fuel for my 50 states legal complete kit in a new car and I STILL cant even make a fun run much less a visit to the track while I still can ( got issues you dont want to know about)....at this point I'm literally trying to burden my family less...
One side of my says pay to have it returned to stock trade in and sell the kits in their full stages...one side of me doesnt want to he hung up another 3 or 4 weeks and 4k while someone does that losing even more money, I'm sure a whippersnapper like I was 15-20 years ago could figure this out and have a nice ride.....
Just havent dealt with take a supercharged car to a dealer before didnt know what to expect....what's the smart play...and dont say built short block there is so much bad will built up I'll never get over it, the ms109 fail was the last straw. I think its the cats wont flow 800 plus hp on 93 on 14psi without backing that temp up into the combustion chamber...making it all worse and detonating once they reach a certain temp and load....BUT you cant remove them without voiding your warranty....so.....
I've run into a situation where I've bought my first new car in December of 19, it still only has 5k miles with the seat and glove box tags still on.
I've never gotten to enjoy the car if it's not sitting because Supercharger warranty starts at mileage installed and their on back order, then waiting on installer window, then trouble shooting initial issues now resolved with most the kits ....then less than pleased with results losing power belt slip ect. Upgrade to Stage 2 which theoretically takes care of all my Stage 1 issues like slip and how I didnt like the trans schedule the same as stock when I've added 200hp....ect ect..
Same waiting game with stage 2, waiting on it to come in multiple shipments as they were messed up and still didnt receive all on the 2nd shipment ( first upgrade customer ), waiting on installer cause though I gave myself a 5 day window for shipping screw ups it wasnt enough with the multiple shipment errors..so missed my window again and he is pissed again...wait weeks to get it in and back....
Take it home that evening fill up with fuel at same station for last 6 years 93 nitro +.....head out to country to test Stage 2 first time it shifts to second blows engine...
You can imagine the engine replacement ordeal especially with me a liason with Ford fighting 2 ends simultaneously. Had already dropped a retainer when both sides come together ( I will say some lawyers are great she kept the retainer BUT said I could retrieve it IF she did nothing the first time she even sent a message with her letter head it was gone, and to me it was a significant amount she did return it just like she said when all sides come together...very awesome).
Get it home carefully put 920 miles on engine every 100 miles past 400.started letting it shift itself out 500rpm higher till a max of 4000 was reached. Used hills to add load to seat rings without as much rpm ( a tuning trick I used on GM stuff decel tuning as well).
Logging the entire time on the 91 tune with 93 fuel...sending in and getting thumbs up progressively more till at 920 miles we done a single gear pull manually let out on shift. Thumbs up on the log took back out to same spot it shifts to 3rd again rattles like an UZI at the bottom of 3rd ( 1st was feathering this is limited traction ) full knock retard 0 timing noses over....dejavu....
Tried everything was asked by the company to try it with 5 gals on ms109 today same results just delayed a gear and a little less dramatic.....
But a year later I've spent 13k, blown an engine this one feels blown now......I havent been to track, raced any of the cars gearing down on my cruising ( I know they think why you got it then grey beard).I havent had a single pass in smash in stage 2 across 2 engines and nothing seems to help...I can see the cat temp is getting nuts and the knock coincides with the fuel source swapping to exhaust temp table. Cats read as high as 2000....
I cant remember a single good time in the car, I was talked into buying my first nice car and turn key supercharger system because of my families concerns about my health. I've been keeping a 1000-1200hp 67 Camaro going as my near daily for almost 30 years...and this is no joke I've worked on and hurt myself more since I've had this new car than last 5 years on the 67 combined. With my commitments to show I'd hazard I've got well more than 5k miles on the last iteration of the build 1000 street hits and 50 track...
I have nothing to show from spending 52k except something pretty to look at in the drive way.
I've never done one like this before I have no intentions of lying honestly the fact it has a May29th 2019 build engine should be a plus cause it was quite as a mouse compared to the first one a really good sounding engine....so sad....
1. I'm thinking return to stage 1, I have to full kit and sell including tuner to individual or trade in.
2. Trade in as is....
3. Return to complete stock, I just added a catback as I was told it might help ( and did actually I think ). Its not super loud and has no drone I'm an old man and wanted it that way not sure if they toss my stock stuff yet just had it done in desperation.
Lund wont tune it on the stock boost wants me to return boost levels to stage 1 and I cant see spending 6k for an upgrade of 3psi, just to spend another 1000 ( Lund tune, griptec pulley, and belt ) to return it to the same psi it was before....that shit sandwich would have corn in it......
Weary if no one knows what's going on, no one wants to touch it or can help me after months and months I still cant enjoy the brand new car and it's already had one engine replaced. I just spent $100 on racing fuel for my 50 states legal complete kit in a new car and I STILL cant even make a fun run much less a visit to the track while I still can ( got issues you dont want to know about)....at this point I'm literally trying to burden my family less...
One side of my says pay to have it returned to stock trade in and sell the kits in their full stages...one side of me doesnt want to he hung up another 3 or 4 weeks and 4k while someone does that losing even more money, I'm sure a whippersnapper like I was 15-20 years ago could figure this out and have a nice ride.....
Just havent dealt with take a supercharged car to a dealer before didnt know what to expect....what's the smart play...and dont say built short block there is so much bad will built up I'll never get over it, the ms109 fail was the last straw. I think its the cats wont flow 800 plus hp on 93 on 14psi without backing that temp up into the combustion chamber...making it all worse and detonating once they reach a certain temp and load....BUT you cant remove them without voiding your warranty....so.....
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