Best intake and tune?

[yellowstangatl]

I've seen the PMAS CAI in person on a club member's car. It is absolutely the ugliest thing I've ever seen. The "airbox" area looks like it was hand carved and homemade. That said, if you don't care about the looks of it and care about performance, it's seems to be the one.

You just made my car cry. It's not that ugly.

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[Sondra@LeslieMotorsports]

Go with Palm Beach Dyno, JLT and SCT X4. You'll be happy you did

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[16s550]

Lund flex fuel pmas intake

 

[Gibbo205]

Hi there


So yesterday I finally fitted my PMAS, yes a CAI, one of the hottest debated topics on the forums, with many claiming a CAI does nothing except massively increase IAT's. That is why sometimes it is good to just sit back and let others be the guinea pigs as out of all the intakes on the market there are some happy but other showing even a drop off in performance and no increase in power. Then came along PMAS a company who seem more focused on actual engineering and improving performance rather than aesthetics and marketing. The PMAS is the only CAI that seems to have no complaints in regard to performance, all owners have noticed improvements in acceleration and throttle response and several members have done independent before/after dyno's showing 15-20BHP peak gains with larger gains lower in the rev range and other members have shown improvements in the quarter mile of a couple of tenths and 2-3mph additional terminal speed. So it seems like we have a performer.

The downsides to the PMAS is aesthetics went right out the door, it is probably the most ugly CAI on the market and the fit and finish could also be better, but its designed to function and perform, it is not something to look pretty under your hood, yes I've being Americanised.


So first of all a couple of images of my install how it is now (maf behind heatshield):

You will see I have used gold heat reflective tape to try and keep temperatures down, after a 30 minute drive I can report the intake tube, maf tube and filter are still cool to the touch, whereas rest of the engine is red hot. Though the tape on the plastic PMAS tube is peeling so that might have to come off.

I originally installed with maf sensor outside heatshield, did it make any difference changing it so it was inside the heatshield, I'd say it dropped the driving IAT by around 2c, so now only 4c above ambient temp reported, so its a very minor difference, in traffic IAT's still shoot up quickly compared to stock air box, but on the flip side they also come back down far quicker once moving.

Also I have zero issues closing the hood/bonnet, it closes with no resistance so I can only assume nothing is touching at all.



So what have I noticed now the car has had a few starts and runs with this intake:

1. Cold start in sport mode, throttle is too touchy, have to put it in normal mode for first 5 minutes as throttle response is razor sharp, once warm sport is fine and smooth, not really an issue, just an observation.

2. The cars exhaust note is slightly deeper, a real traditional V8 throbbing now. Go full throttle and the car is vastly louder, the engine really roars, with windows up in the 2000-3500rpm I'd say it is actually too loud as it is really deep tone, with the windows slightly down it sounds pretty awesome. At cruise it sounds no different than stock, no drone, no buzz. In a perfect world I'd like a little less intake volume than I have now, I can only see this being achieved by PMAS offering a carbon fibre version of their intake tube.

3. Throttle response, now bear in mind my setup was front grill opened up, velossa big mouth, panel filter, airaid modular intake tube, so I had perfected the stock intake setup. Well there is still a further improvement in throttle response, so over a complete stock setup people would really notice this as a drastic improvement over the stock car.

4. Power: 1000-3000rpm the car seems to have even more torque, it will really pickup down low, I am running a JDM tune and I have the "no tune" PMAS so no tune adjustments were made, I went this way simply for ease and because JDM charge for tune updates. But the car picks up better and pulls harder for sure, not quite to the impact the original tune gave (30HP peak gain from JDM tune), but very close so there must be a good 40-50lb/ft addition low down torque now compared to stock. The car pulls hard and fast right upto the 7500rpm rev limiter, does it feel faster up top, really hard to tell, certainly does not feel slower and the acceleration even in 5th sends the speedo round quickly.

5. Dyno: Once I have a few more runs on the intake and Ford have 100% fixed my minor oil leak the car will go on the dyno to compare against its last run which was stock intake with panel filter, airaid MIT and JDM tune. So the only change is the PMAS, no tune adjustments made, so will be interested to see if there is any change from the previous dyno run. So I will hit the dyno in around a weeks time and the PMAS would of being on the car for close to 200-300 miles then so plenty of time to adapt etc.

6. Updates / Modifications: I have the GT 350 RAM air scoop on the way from JDM, this will connect the stock bumper ducting to the PMAS air box, if need be I shall open up the hole in the PMAS air box more to match the GT 350 duct if it is larger, this will case a RAM air effect and should also increase flow further.


Overall I am happy, dyno butt performance can feel an improvement for sure, it sounds pretty amazing, though a little to loud at full throttle with windows up.

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

That E46 though! <3

 

[LethalPerformance]

Yes, I just ordered the PMAS from Derek a few days ago and after install there is definetly a seat of the pants gain! I am running mine with Lund tune and everything is perfect so far.

Another vote for PMAS/Lund combo!

Thanks for the business! We really appreciate it. :cheers:

 

[Derek@Lethal]

who has the best deal on a gt350 IM and pmas intake

Give us a call and we'll put something together for you :cheers:

 

[ArabianOak]

Thanks for the business! We really appreciate it. :cheers:

Derek, based off my sig what would you suggest my next mod be for another 10/15hp?

Headers are way too much money for the gain IMO....just wanted to get your thoughts.

 

[beefcake]

who has the best deal on a gt350 IM and pmas intake

we can get you set up

 

[Derek@Lethal]

Derek, based off my sig what would you suggest my next mod be for another 10/15hp?

Headers are way too much money for the gain IMO....just wanted to get your thoughts.

Flex Fuel tune if you have E85 available and did not opt for it on your order.

 

[Vinny@JLTPerformance]

We do absolutely paint Magnetic!

Whichever the flavor of the month is on this forum our intake systems still have more independent testing, on S550 models at that. Our systems come complete ready to install, no chasing hardware, installing fittings, weather strip...etc.

We offer our own tuner package, or you could also purchase through the many vendors on this site along with a different tuners.

Bama's test tune only and then adding JLT.

Thread:
http://mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11053&highlight=jlt+dyno

Board member Anthony's results, which he had graphs but deleted them all when he got banned :(

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showpost.php?p=385153&postcount=171


Our very own 2015 GT, we base lined our car on a dyno dynamics and dyno jet, it made 381-384whp on both.

Another local customer's 2015 GT that allowed us to test on the dyno, this car had 250 miles on it at testing! Intake and tune

SVT Performance's testing, JLT picked up 11whp peak over tune only.

See attachment



So as you can see the lowest test shows 9whp, with typical results 12-15whp over the stock box.

 

[Gibbo205]

That E46 though! <3

Yes needing to give the Mustang more power to make it quicker than it. ;)

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

I am on an E39 M hunt ATM...DON'T TELL ANYONE lol.

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