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Don't know why I thought of this today but really had me scratching my head when I installed this.

A while back I installed a bidet toilet seat. They need their own water source and all I've seen just T off the existing line where it connects to the toilet. Every other brand I looked at put the T where the house line went into the toilet. Made perfect sense, only one new hose that only needs to be a few inches to the new seat.

But the one I went with for other reasons, put the T at the other end of the line right at the shutoff. That meant a very long hose to the seat, not to mention opens the possibility whatever length hose that came with the seat it might be too short. Likewise, I've seen older homes with no removable hose after the shutoff. So this could not be installed with that scenario either without having to replace the valve and everything after it. Plus this design requires both ends of the existing hose to be disconnected meaning twice the chance of leaks.

Picture below. Does anyone have a clue why a company (one of the best sellers) would make these choices that increased their costs (extra hose AND longer hoses), results in worse aesthetics (numerous longer hoses), and makes it more difficult to install? I know the bean counters and marketing had to hate this, but what overrode them?

Every other brand/model I saw simply put the T where the arrow below starts and runs a short new hose following the arrow. This seat added every single hose you see.

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I'm guessing to accommodate for different types of toilets/plumbing? I'm not a podiologist though so I'm probably wrong. They do make great water fountains when you aren't using them to clean your ass.
 

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This appears that it would be a chilling experience?
 
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The 7/8 thread on the toilet connection is not a standard tee. They used a 3/8x3/8 tee just because it’s a standard item you can buy at Lowe’s.
Finally something that makes sense. 👍

They used off the shelf parts and also made it idiot proof for the average homeowner to install. No ideal though.
Not so sure about this part since it forces the homeowner to disconnect both ends of the existing line. Some idiots might survive one without cross-threading, overtightening or leaks but fewer would survive two. Plus, some homes have shutoffs with a non-removable flexible metal line and some of those idiots might just pull on the line until it breaks off. LoL
 
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This appears that it would be a chilling experience?
The candle for the shower head or bidet?

But seats with built in water heaters (and seat heaters and heated blow drying) are common place.

Japan got this right. I understand its harder to find a home toilet without bidet there than one with in the US.
 
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They do make great water fountains when you aren't using them to clean your ass.
Good idea but.... Even if someone wanted to drink from them its pretty far from mouth level. Plus could have problems reliably convincing the weight sensors in the seat to activate the device. And unless the particular seat uses an on-demand water heater and you don't mind deactivating it, you'd be drinking warm water.
 

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Bad idea......
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