Almost 60K for Loaded 2018 GT

[AlmostFamous]

Pretty much. I'm at just barely $42k with my options (401A, active exhaust, security, shaker pro). Doesn't really scream 'omg overpriced'.

I think most people at this board just expect to get everything they want (PP, magneride) with all of the luxury shit and act surprised that it's super expensive. Uh yea, that's a fully loaded car.

Again, compare the base price of my 2016 GT and the 2018 GT, $32,395 vs $39,095. That is a huge jump in price.

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[Kevin08]

Again, compare the base price of my 2016 GT and the 2018 GT, $32,395 vs $39,095. That is a huge jump in price.

You are comparing the price of a non-premium to a premium. The base 2018 GT is $35,095

 

[AlmostFamous]

You should have just stopped there.

1) Different cars on different days can vary by seconds. I've long considered those VIR times to be a rough estimate only. Different drivers, different days (or years).
2) Ford claims over 1/2 second decrease in the MY18 0-60 times. Unless the MY18 is somehow slower on the top end than the current gen, it should be VERY comparable to the current gen camaro in acceleration.
3) The MY18 GTPP has a HUGE advantage over the current gen in that it's tires are FAR superior. The tire change alone can shed several seconds off of a lap.

With that said, no-one here knows how the MY18 will perform.

Rough estimates, yes, but it does give you a general idea how a vehicle performs on the track. I have no doubt the 18 GT PP will perform better. I just don't see it shaving 10 seconds off it's lap-time. 10 seconds is an eternity.

 

[AlmostFamous]

You are comparing the price of a non-premium to a premium. The base 2018 GT is $35,095

I take that back, you are right. For some reason, I saw 400A instead of 401A for the option package.

 

[millhouse]

Rough estimates, yes, but it does give you a general idea how a vehicle performs on the track. I have no doubt the 18 GT PP will perform better. I just don't see it shaving 10 seconds off it's lap-time. 10 seconds is an eternity.

3 seconds from tires and 2 seconds on a more favorable day (temp, track prep etc) and your halfway there!

 

[Ninjak]

What people also are not mentioning, the ride in a 1LE no matter the trim, is not a comfortable one. Its stiff and its rough. Its meant to be. So a 1LE is doing well at the track, but it is not a street worthy car unless you do not mind the ride. The current PP Mustang does not punish you, and if the mag ride from the GT350 equates into the MY18, then you should get a good ride and track performance. I guess we will see.

 

[xDUMPWEEDx]

Here come the "magazines " posts.

Anyways, it goes like this (GENERALLY SPEAKING):

ZL1 1LE > ZL1 > GT350R > GT350 > SS 1LE > SS > GT PP > V6 1LE > GT.

These are all backed up by multiple sources, including Randy Pobst. Keep in mind, a lot of these times are VERY close to each other.

And not to beat a dead horse, but the '18 GT is overpriced. :amen:

 

[sublimaze]

And not to beat a dead horse, but the '18 GT is overpriced. :amen:

Agreed. The 2015 GT offered the best bang for the buck when it was introduced. But Ford priced the 2018 it out of its league. If I'm gonna drop ~$60k on a new Mustang, I'll get a Shelby GT350 before I buy a loaded 2018 GT Premium :tsk:

No doubt Ford will sell a lot of 2018s in the first 6 months to the "gotta have it" folks willing to pay early adopters tax. After that, it will be easy to drive one off the lot for under MSRP.

 

[obgod3]

60K...some folks are like the dam media...GT premium, perf pack, auto, 401, mag-ride, active exhaust = 52k and low change... Maybe 53 with the recaros...plus you will all get X-plan anyway and you know it. phhfff .

 

[Norm Peterson]

I think we all understand $60k to be the high end. But with the minimum buy-in for a GT with PP and nothing else coming in at $40k there is definitely some sticker shock going on for those of us who are not almost always in some stage of 'new car buying mode'.

It's getting close to being out of reach for many of the younger prospective buyers (many of whom are saddled with ridiculous amounts of education debt). As well as for those of us on the other side of our careers, unless the retirement fund can realistically stand being raided that heavily.


Norm

 

[Cgocifer]

Agreed. The 2015 GT offered the best bang for the buck when it was introduced. But Ford priced the 2018 it out of its league. If I'm gonna drop ~$60k on a new Mustang, I'll get a Shelby GT350 before I buy a loaded 2018 GT Premium :tsk:

No doubt Ford will sell a lot of 2018s in the first 6 months to the "gotta have it" folks willing to pay early adopters tax. After that, it will be easy to drive one off the lot for under MSRP.

That's me! Gotta have it. ;-) however, I have no interest in a "loaded" mustang. If I wanted leather and all the fancy blind spot stuff, I'd get a Mercedes... besides, that's what mirrors are for. This will be a weekend sunny day fun car for me. $44k will be fine and thats before any discounts or haggling. Then again, I'm used to hit rods and classic muscle cars. My pro touring chevelle had huge Willwood brakes, an LS, 5 speed, hydraulic dual plate clutch, but no heat or AC. So, a base GT with PP1 or 2 with a 6 speed manual will be loaded enough for me ;-)

 

[xDUMPWEEDx]

coming in at $40k there is definitely some sticker shock going on for those of us who are not almost always in some stage of 'new car buying mode'.

That's why there is so much push back on the '18 here. Many of us spent in the $28k-$32k range for our GTs. I have seen people get a '17 GT PP for $29k.

The problem is, Ford spoiled us. We all got incredible deals on our cars. Now, Ford has decided that they want a little more profit on the Mustang, and have taken actions to accomplish this. The '18 GTs are absolutely worth the money, but it certainly is sticker shock for us '15-'17 owners.

 

[Norm Peterson]

What people also are not mentioning, the ride in a 1LE no matter the trim, is not a comfortable one. Its stiff and its rough. Its meant to be. So a 1LE is doing well at the track, but it is not a street worthy car unless you do not mind the ride.

Whether one buys a car such as a 1LE with a suspension/wheels/tires package that's been pushed toward track duty or builds a car up with that in mind there should be some acceptance ahead-of-time concerning potential downsides.

I really doubt there's much difference in the street ride quality between 'bought' with track time in mind and 'owner-modified' to the same end, at least with respect to what those who don't get into handling mods expect their cars to ride like. I honestly wouldn't call the ride quality of the 5th gen Z/28 "uncomfortable" - firm, yes.

The current PP Mustang does not punish you, and if the mag ride from the GT350 equates into the MY18, then you should get a good ride and track performance. I guess we will see.

We'll have to see about this. On the surface it could be a very good thing for many people. My main concerns are about how understeerish the mag-ride tuning ends up being and what the default amounts to should the system go off-line for any reason. I wonder if we'll ever get any information that even begins to answer those questions.


Norm

 

[Ninjak]

Well I guess I can agree with the shock valvue, but the Mustang has steadily gone up since the new 5.0 in 11 ? So with the 15's until now, tech has come as well. It would seem that sure the prices have gone up by 2k ? But in truth for the people trying to get into a Mustang the Eco Boost is a great model to jump in and with some upgrades a nice performer.

Perhaps this is Fords plan going forward.

 

[TheReaper]

Pretty much. I'm at just barely $42k with my options (401A, active exhaust, security, shaker pro). Doesn't really scream 'omg overpriced'.

I think most people at this board just expect to get everything they want (PP, magneride) with all of the luxury shit and act surprised that it's super expensive. Uh yea, that's a fully loaded car.

There's people here that want it all and probably can't afford it.:headbonk:

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