5.0 Cold Air Intake issues?

[SF-2015 GT]

IMHO, a tune increases the available power by some margin, definitely measurable on a dyno (and to some degree seat-of-the-pants). After I added the JLT, and it's specific tune, there was a much larger difference in power/ driveability. I drilled 2 extra holes in the grille to optimize (read lower) the IAT. Nothing more needed. I had the same concern about water, but it hasn't been an issue ever.

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[Sasuketr]

Do you have any data to back up that claim? Do you have any timeslips to back up that claim? Don't refer to aftermarket manufacturers' dyno sheets either, that's not factual data.

Well you said it yourself, go to 1/4 mile time slip section of the forum, all cars even tuned have cold air intakes for a reason. When you shift at high rpm's there is no way a stock intake with a limited diameter and opening is going to flow better than an aftermarket intake! Tune helps but combined with an intake you get better results because the car actually can take advantage of the increased air flow through the throttle body!

Regarding the dyno testing, if a car puts down higher numbers with an aftermarket intake, does it really matter if the hood is open or closed? Both intakes are being tested in the same environment and testing conditions. IAT's also go high with the stock intake, infact the hot air which rises couldn't leave the intake due to closed enclosure. Just my two cents!

 

[partyelmarty]

Well you said it yourself, go to 1/4 mile time slip section of the forum, all cars even tuned have cold air intakes for a reason. When you shift at high rpm's there is no way a stock intake with a limited diameter and opening is going to flow better than an aftermarket intake! Tune helps but combined with an intake you get better results because the car actually can take advantage of the increased air flow through the throttle body!

Regarding the dyno testing, if a car puts down higher numbers with an aftermarket intake, does it really matter if the hood is open or closed? Both intakes are being tested in the same environment and testing conditions. IAT's also go high with the stock intake, infact the hot air which rises couldn't leave the intake due to closed enclosure. Just my two cents!

I've ran better times then some of the ones posted in the 1/4 ET list, with a factory tune and a Airraid intake that is same diameter as factory and doesn't require a tune. So your remark about the 1/4 list means nothing. You must be the type to buy into anything on the Internet. The factory intake is pretty good until you're really making some power. It's all in the tune.

Wow, yes, it does matter. Do you drive with your hood open. A open hood on the dyno with a intake that isn't enclosed with allow more air into the intake then when it's closed. That's not real world conditions. You have a lot to learn. The factory intake does not get crazy high IATs. Any intake will get a spike in IATs when sitting still. The factory CAI runs 7-10 degrees over ambient temps when driving, my Airriad runs 4-6 degrees over ambient. Not a huge difference, and certainly not hot enough to say it's horrible.

 

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[Sasuketr]

I've ran better times then some of the ones posted in the 1/4 ET list, with a factory tune and a Airraid intake that is same diameter as factory and doesn't require a tune. So your remark about the 1/4 list means nothing. You must be the type to buy into anything on the Internet. The factory intake is pretty good until you're really making some power. It's all in the tune.

Wow, yes, it does matter. Do you drive with your hood open. A open hood on the dyno with a intake that isn't enclosed with allow more air into the intake then when it's closed. That's not real world conditions. You have a lot to learn. The factory intake does not get crazy high IATs. Any intake will get a spike in IATs when sitting still. The factory CAI runs 7-10 degrees over ambient temps when driving, my Airriad runs 4-6 degrees over ambient. Not a huge difference, and certainly not hot enough to say it's horrible.

I run no tune steeda intake and its a blast! While in motion with the incoming flowing air i don't have to worry about anything! Now it makes sense why you are renting cause u are running airaid intake! Next time do some research before spending money on an intake! Airaid with no tune may not give you any juice!

 

[partyelmarty]

I run no tune steeda intake and its a blast! While in motion with the incoming flowing air i don't have to worry about anything! Now it makes sense why you are renting cause u are running airaid intake! Next time do some research before spending money on an intake! Airaid with no tune may not give you any juice!

So what is your personal best ET? Oh wait, you just bench race.

I don't need a tune right now. I can run better times then most with the same setup as I.

 

[Sasuketr]

So what is your personal best ET? Oh wait, you just bench race.

I don't need a tune right now. I can run better times then most with the same setup as I.

Haha whatever you say man more power to you!

 

[partyelmarty]

Exactly, you can't prove anything. If you don't actually race ou shouldn't make claims as to how much a CAI alone will make a S550 faster. Talk to me when you get a timeslip or two.

 

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[bluebeastsrt]

Exactly, you can't prove anything. If you don't actually race ou shouldn't make claims as to how much a CAI alone will make a S550 faster. Talk to me when you get a timeslip or two.

I gained 7 wheel HP peak from a cold air intake and I'm number 8 on the bolt on fast list. I can post the dyno sheet tomorrow if you like. I'm at work right now and it's on the laptop at home. How much more do you need? If you want to debate about the cost of those 7 hp that's a different story.

 

[partyelmarty]

I gained 7 wheel HP peak from a cold air intake and I'm number 8 on the bolt on fast list. I can post the dyno sheet tomorrow if you like. I'm at work right now and it's on the laptop at home. How much more do you need? If you want to debate about the cost of those 7 hp that's a different story.

Timeslips mean more than a dyno number to me. That comment was for Sas. He seems to think, like a lot of people, the huge gains when adding a CAI + tune come from the CAI. Those of us who have knowledge know that is not the case on these Coyotes. Sure, you'll gain anywhere from 5-10hp from the CAI, but not the 30hp manufacturers claim. That's my point. How much ET does 7hp cut off anyways? Nice time btw

 

[bluebeastsrt]

Timeslips mean more than a dyno number to me. That comment was for Sas. He seems to think, like a lot of people, the huge gains when adding a CAI + tune come from the CAI. Those of us who have knowledge know that is not the case on these Coyotes. Sure, you'll gain anywhere from 5-10hp from the CAI, but not the 30hp manufacturers claim. That's my point. How much ET does 7hp cut off anyways? Nice time btw

Manufactures are in business to make money. I know it's been debated extensively about the value of a CAI. And the reality is they don't do much. The tune on the other hand is a quality mod and worth the money IMO. 7hp isn't a lot. But every little bit helps.

 

[partyelmarty]

Manufactures are in business to make money. I know it's been debated extensively about the value of a CAI. And the reality is they don't do much. The tune on the other hand is a quality mod and worth the money IMO. 7hp isn't a lot. But every little bit helps.

I definitely understand that.

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