400 pound weight loss??

[Dirk McGurck]

Based on interior size, the GT86 twins aren't 'on trick'. The Miata, yes. If they can get a 300hp motor into the GT86 twins, I may have to check it out.

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[Pitch]

Throw a 400 hp turbo kit in it for 5k.

400 rwhp @ 2800 lbs? Yes plox

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[Grimace427]

Throw a 400 hp turbo kit in it for 5k.

400 rwhp @ 2800 lbs? Yes plox

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Drive channel on YouTube did a review on the Crawford car, check it out. BTW no way you get 400hp out of that car for only $5k, at least not for more than a few pulls on a dyno.

Me personally I think that much power would make it a highway-pull only kind of car. Trying to take that through a twisty road would end poorly.

 

[eurospeed]

Is a 400 lb weight reduction attainable? Absolutely. It's just a matter of time, resources, and budget...what we don't know is how much priority Ford has truly given it.

However, one thing that is clear; more manufacturers are becoming hyper sensitive to weight whether it be driven by regulations or enthusiasts. Some older but still very current videos:

Mazda's Gram Strategy
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Lighter Cars Due to EU Regulation
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[Pitch]

Not talking about the crawford 450hp car

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[Pitch]

AP has a car that has over 200 pulls on it

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[Dirk McGurck]

There's a couple supercharger kits I found, but no real numbers besides price. The supercharger looks badass, too, twin screw built into the intake manifold.

 

[Dirk McGurck]

Found it. Innovate Motorsports offers a twin screw supercharger built into the intake manifold for the FA20 motor and offers a liquid to air intercooler. With that and an exhaust, the car puts down 245hp/200ftlbs at the wheels on a baseline tune with 8psi. They offer a different pulley, too. On a car that weighs <3000lbs...

 

[Grimace427]

Found it. Innovate Motorsports offers a twin screw supercharger built into the intake manifold for the FA20 motor and offers a liquid to air intercooler. With that and an exhaust, the car puts down 245hp/200ftlbs at the wheels on a baseline tune with 8psi. They offer a different pulley, too. On a car that weighs <3000lbs...

MotoIQ just installed the inter cooler portion of their supercharger build but didn't break 200whp due to their 91 octane California piss water.

 

[Dirk McGurck]

MotoIQ just installed the inter cooler portion of their supercharger build but didn't break 200whp due to their 91 octane California piss water.

Edmunds was using IM's 91 tune. Weird.

 

[Gman11Gt]

Based on interior size, the GT86 twins aren't 'on trick'. The Miata, yes. If they can get a 300hp motor into the GT86 twins, I may have to check it out.

While the FRS isn't a Miata and feels more like a car, it is much smaller. I drove one a while ago and while I have driven a lot of cars, it wasn't as fun as I thought it would be and lacked any grunt in higher RPM range. I believe the V6 Mustang with the 1113mph rev limiter beat the FRS a full second around the track consistently.

If I was in the market for this type of niche car, I would choose an S2000 by a long shot. It is a purpose built car the revs much better and seems to be a car I could drive all the time that would put a smile on my face every time just like my 330I and my Mustang.

I think the I-4 EB Mustang will be where the competition is at for Ford when it comes to those niche products. I still believe Ford needs to look at at EB V6 like the 3.5 down the road to compete with other offerings like the V6 Genesis Coupe. I found that car to be much more enjoyable to drive (minus the gearbox) then the FRS.

 

[w3rkn]

Other than total weight loss, I think it is as critical if not more is the weight distribution. Based on the pictures, it seems to me the overhang seems to be a touch more than compared to say a M3. But having heard some of the comments from Ford, it appears that they are concerned about the weight over the front of the car so with my fingers crossed, I really hope it at least will have at most 52/48 or hopefully more like 51/49.

I was thinking the same thing.
Notice how they released a lot of info, but completely mum about weight & distribution. Not even a credible rumor.

Secondly, I really hope Ford hit "it's mark" on weight, because it might be the deciding factor for me. And if it, is anything close to the ATS/maro (@ essentially 3,300lbs +/-), ..then I am in, because then you'll be able to finesse that IRS..! & save $25k over the much bloated M4, for track MODZ.!! (& winter shoes)


Again, like WestRace said, even if the weight reduction isn't that drastic, perhaps they BALANCED the car out. I would like to see how she drifts.. to see the balance/control!

 

[Stuntman]

I was thinking the same thing.
Notice how they released a lot of info, but completely mum about weight & distribution. Not even a credible rumor.

Secondly, I really hope Ford hit "it's mark" on weight, because it might be the deciding factor for me. And if it, is anything close to the ATS/maro (@ essentially 3,300lbs +/-), ..then I am in, because then you'll be able to finesse that IRS..! & save $25k over the much bloated M4, for track MODZ.!! (& winter shoes)


Again, like WestRace said, even if the weight reduction isn't that drastic, perhaps they BALANCED the car out. I would like to see how she drifts.. to see the balance/control!

+1 on hopes of weight distribution but if the d@mn battery was in the trunk it'd be a 60lb+ swing and ~1%.

That "bloated" M4 weighs 3300lbs and is lower with a carbon roof and composite trunk.

 

[Grimace427]

+1 on hopes of weight distribution but if the d@mn battery was in the trunk it'd be a 60lb+ swing and ~1%.

That "bloated" M4 weighs 3300lbs and is lower with a carbon roof and composite trunk.

The OEM battery weighs 32lbs. To mount it in the trunk would increase total weight by around 20-25lbs because of the larger battery cable(both length and gauge to offset voltage loss due to resistance) and also the addition of a voltage distribution box.

 

[Stevefreestyle]

The OEM battery weighs 32lbs. To mount it in the trunk would increase total weight by around 20-25lbs because of the larger battery cable(both length and gauge to offset voltage loss due to resistance) and also the addition of a voltage distribution box.

Yep that' a no brainer - they have obviously never felt the weight of Battery Cables.

Best solution could be for placement up near the passengers side firewall - if it could fit without obstructing the engine.

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