2022 Whipple Stage 2, Whipple tune, Self-install, Initial Thoughts

[Socal Stangman]

So I have a question about tunes, specifically the Whipple vs. an aftermarket tune. I have a Stage 2 kit on my manual 2015 and freaking love it. I think the Whipple tune feels ok so far except the idle is higher and my gad mileage really went to shit…I get it, I’m not really worried about mileage but how did I go from 20ish to 13? I don’t drive it like I stole it all the time.

so what are the benefits of getting an aftermarket tune? Will drivability get a little better? The Whipple tune seems like something is off a little…not in a really bad way, just off. I know more power, but I’m not really that concerned about that, but for those that did a different tune, was it worth it? I’d go with Rob Shoemaker.

Thanks

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[bryontro]

So I have a question about tunes, specifically the Whipple vs. an aftermarket tune. I have a Stage 2 kit on my manual 2015 and freaking love it. I think the Whipple tune feels ok so far except the idle is higher and my gad mileage really went to shit…I get it, I’m not really worried about mileage but how did I go from 20ish to 13? I don’t drive it like I stole it all the time.

so what are the benefits of getting an aftermarket tune? Will drivability get a little better? The Whipple tune seems like something is off a little…not in a really bad way, just off. I know more power, but I’m not really that concerned about that, but for those that did a different tune, was it worth it? I’d go with Rob Shoemaker.

Thanks

Overall, Whipple has been responsive to me. Drivability has been rather good "in drive" mode. On the mileage though, I may have lost 2 mpg if that. Im still seeing 23 mpg on the highway so I would suggest contacting Whipple for latest calibration and see what happens. I am in an A10 car though.

 

[engineermike]

So I have a question about tunes, specifically the Whipple vs. an aftermarket tune. I have a Stage 2 kit on my manual 2015 and freaking love it. I think the Whipple tune feels ok so far except the idle is higher and my gad mileage really went to shit…I get it, I’m not really worried about mileage but how did I go from 20ish to 13? I don’t drive it like I stole it all the time.

Those two issues are the reason I got into DIY tuning, honestly.

I don't know why Whipple insists on increasing the idle speed. I complained to them about this way back in 2015 and they refused to lower it. I got hptuners and did it myself and it works fine. My guess they had idle stability problems on some cars and increasing the idle speed fixed it on all of them.

Also they clearly didn't worry much with the fuel economy. The part throttle shift points (for instance, cruising at 40 mph at 1800 rpm vs 1200 rpm), MBT timing tables, idle speed, and cam timing were not set up for fuel economy. I got probably 90% of my fuel economy back by copying in stock shift tables for part throttle, copying Roush MBT timing tables, lowering idle speed, and altering part throttle cam timing.

I've seen aftermarket tunes from big names that were even worse than Whipple regarding part throttle cam timing, spark timing, and shift points. Most aftermarket tuners won't worry with that stuff either. They just want to get WOT power and decent drivability, response, etc.

 

[sabtaj1]

I hear ya on the mpg. horrible.... e85 I get 12-14mpg interstate & 93 16-17mpg interstate. My buddy with the ess kit gets almost double. LOL. mine is a A10 with lund.

 

[engineermike]

I hear ya on the mpg. horrible.... e85 I get 12-14mpg interstate & 93 16-17mpg interstate. My buddy with the ess kit gets almost double. LOL. mine is a A10 with lund.

Ouch! I get around 20-21 on my commute (mixed driving) on 93 and 16-17 on e85.

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