2015 Mustang Production / Ordering Schedule

[Mustangchief]

I haven't seen that on the forum. Got a link? I thought the last information posted said there were no constraints.

Thanks!

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php/updated-mustang-delivery-3136.html?p=98555#post98555

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[navyIS98]

It has a date now:

89Trooper, how long did it take from the time you got your VIN until it switched to "In Production"?

 

[Mikeiscoo2]

ordered 5/23 retail. order number 0001 priority 10.. still no vin or build date for my fucking car......

 

[Mikeiscoo2]

if i don't have an update on my retail car by 9/20 im calling the flat rock plant and telling them they're going to die in 7 days if this shit doesnt get figured out fast.

 

[Seabee1973]

if i don't have an update on my retail car by 9/20 im calling the flat rock plant and telling them they're going to die in 7 days if this shit doesnt get figured out fast.

That would be pretty extreme... are you in contact with your dealer? They can or might give you an idea... so far this had been my worst experience in ordering a car this being the third one.... I at least had an update every time a production Change happened on my Audi and it was because the chassis or engine parts were sent to factory, the chassis was built and railed back to Gyor, Hungary whee my car finally got it's final assembly and track test, to the boat, customs, and waiting on a truck in the port of Houston....lol. F150 was waiting fir me at the dealer when I got home from deployment...... buying a car of the dealer lot was my worst experience by the sales guy telling me what I can afford trying to put me in a Ford escort instead of a Ford probe back in 1995, salesperson ignorance and finally getting one off the lot months later...never again will I deal pff a lot unless it is an order or internet sale without the hassle.... anyways...good luck

 

[souprmage]

Yeah.... but also all this dealer ordering as stock versus what should have been retail is totally screwing up those who have retail orders that could have been in the works by now...Especially those who ordered end of August and even early September.... disheartening... hopefully I will be able to keep this great rate by the time i get to close the deal. Aafes fcu pre approval was quick and simple but they are aware that I may not see my car till November but was hoping by October.... I don't see it happening

Your frustration is misguided. All those stock cars were going to be built as stock cars, regardless. The only difference when we got them to switch them to our orders are the options on the cars matching what we ordered.

The number of them is independent of us. They allocated what they allocated and the dealers entered them as they would have in the quantity they were allowed.

The problem for some of the people getting on the stock order train is that their cars will potentially be delayed since they'll have to be reworked causing them to actually get the cars later than some cars that have yet to be built since they'll be passing QC as they come off the line. But that's neither here or there for you since that would have happened to those cars regardless.

It's not like they would have only run Job 1 as 3 weeks of stock cars and said "hey, lets do this". No, they'd have build stock cars for a good chunk of time as they worked out the kinks in the assembly line.

I get that you just want someone to blame for you not having your car yet, but dealers having stock cars to retail specs isn't causing you any delay.

 

[Clink]

Your logic isn't helping souprmage - we have pitchforks and torches locked and loaded

 

[Brent302]

Your logic isn't helping souprmage - we have pitchforks and torches locked and loaded

Can I be the guy in the back gritting his teeth going "Garrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhh!!!!" lol

 

[souprmage]

<running for cover>

 

[argile2000]

Your frustration is misguided. All those stock cars were going to be built as stock cars, regardless. The only difference when we got them to switch them to our orders are the options on the cars matching what we ordered.

The number of them is independent of us. They allocated what they allocated and the dealers entered them as they would have in the quantity they were allowed.

The problem for some of the people getting on the stock order train is that their cars will potentially be delayed since they'll have to be reworked causing them to actually get the cars later than some cars that have yet to be built since they'll be passing QC as they come off the line. But that's neither here or there for you since that would have happened to those cars regardless.

It's not like they would have only run Job 1 as 3 weeks of stock cars and said "hey, lets do this". No, they'd have build stock cars for a good chunk of time as they worked out the kinks in the assembly line.

I get that you just want someone to blame for you not having your car yet, but dealers having stock cars to retail specs isn't causing you any delay.

Bravo! I could not have said it better myself.

 

[Seabee1973]

Your frustration is misguided. All those stock cars were going to be built as stock cars, regardless. The only difference when we got them to switch them to our orders are the options on the cars matching what we ordered.

The number of them is independent of us. They allocated what they allocated and the dealers entered them as they would have in the quantity they were allowed.

The problem for some of the people getting on the stock order train is that their cars will potentially be delayed since they'll have to be reworked causing them to actually get the cars later than some cars that have yet to be built since they'll be passing QC as they come off the line. But that's neither here or there for you since that would have happened to those cars regardless.

It's not like they would have only run Job 1 as 3 weeks of stock cars and said "hey, lets to this". No, they'd have build stock cars for a good chunk of time as they worked out the kinks in the assembly line.

I get that you just want someone to blame for you not having your car yet, but dealers having stock cars to retail specs isn't causing you any delay.

Is it? Then how is it that a stock order that was placed at the end of August already had been assigned vin and or gone into production... some of those dealers already have an earlier batch of orders placed.. all they have done is use you for their allocations versus doing it by the books and separating a true retail order from a stock order.... does it make it fair for those who ordered retail? No, not by a long shot. If what they are saying about the stock orders, Ford wants to fulfill the stock orders before getting to the retail orders but now, thanks to the piss poor analytical logistics of it all now throws the commodities in constraint. Why not let a dealer order his stock like they all have been doing in the past based on their actual true sales of each model and it's packages? I can tell you for sure that there, in reality, more people that will get a base line v6 or even an ecoboost for the fact of cost to get one. Certain dealers will actually or actually deal with high performance cars as mine does which they split the GT and ecoboost orders most fully decked and a few shy of base. If you look at dealer inventories you will actually see a number of those are base v6 and a few decked out v6 & a few GT models some decked but also a few shy of a base. If every person like those who are enthusiast and believe a mustang should only be a V8 along with all the other options order under dealer stock. Tell me how that does not create a logistical fawk up (f bomb done nice) and create that shortage of parts to complete a production car. Does it make it fair for those who ordered properly? No, it doesn't. I know parts logistics, historical parts useage, history of failure and maintenance requirements which I use to order parts for standard maintenance as well as expected failure based on a number of the fleet/type of vehicle... in a sense, on a production line, these same situations are used to base a stock of parts to complete the production. Been doing that as a construction mechanic for the Navy for the Navy since 1994 until us Seabees got the dreaded 3M system which helped in some aspects but historical maintenance (expected failure) was omitted.

 

[Seabee1973]

Your frustration is misguided. All those stock cars were going to be built as stock cars, regardless. The only difference when we got them to switch them to our orders are the options on the cars matching what we ordered.

The number of them is independent of us. They allocated what they allocated and the dealers entered them as they would have in the quantity they were allowed.

The problem for some of the people getting on the stock order train is that their cars will potentially be delayed since they'll have to be reworked causing them to actually get the cars later than some cars that have yet to be built since they'll be passing QC as they come off the line. But that's neither here or there for you since that would have happened to those cars regardless.

It's not like they would have only run Job 1 as 3 weeks of stock cars and said "hey, lets do this". No, they'd have build stock cars for a good chunk of time as they worked out the kinks in the assembly line.

I get that you just want someone to blame for you not having your car yet, but dealers having stock cars to retail specs isn't causing you any delay.

Oh, for the record, I wasn't expecting the car until late October knowing of the stock orders being fulfilled first even when production started in august and I already knew that BEFORE I even bothered on getting on this forum. I would not want a stock order for one but from the masses I see in here, alot have gotten their cars ordered to spec as stock which does create the constraint to those who ordered back in May as retail. This forum is only a fraction of what is out there versus real world orders and imagine all those people who did take advantage of ordering stock to their spec from the dealers and what has caused this logistical oversight? Those numbers are probably 5x or more for what even shows on these polls in this forum. All I see now is delay for parts constraint...most for the 5.0, wheels, trans. This is exactly what I am seeing. It does not take an analyst to see this happening... it's there and quite obvious

 

[Chameleon]

All those stock cars were going to be built as stock cars, regardless. The only difference when we got them to switch them to our orders are the options on the cars matching what we ordered.

I hear you, I originally order 5/27 but all along didn't know what I wanted and kept removing options then it was switched to Job 2. I talked to the dealer and was lucky enough to find what I wanted with a separate dealer order that was done in June.

 

[souprmage]

Perhaps you should read a review. They didn't bring a V6 to the party. Ever. Ford knows what's going to sell, and the dealers know what's going to sell.

They also know from past experience, that the gear-heads are going to get lots of V8s and they'll be coming to the party early, and so do the Dealers. So, my guess is the packages ordered don't fall too far from what they would have regardless. Not to mention that not all stock orders are claimed for specific buyers. Many dealers want to get them in as stock and charge more than MSRP while the demand is high. People have called on random cars they see on the Ford site, and they're not accounted for. I would imagine that the percentage of stock orders with a known buyer (aka retail) is well less than 50%.

Also, as of next week and the week after, there are no part constraints. This week had some limitations on a few items, but no outages that we heard of. So nothing is slowing down production to keep you away from the car other than Ford continuing to refine the assembly line to ensure that once your car gets built, it has no problems that need fixed post production.

I bet once they start building the retail orders, the parts supply will get worse since there is simply more demand than they were expecting and it's only going to get worse as the cars start to get delivered, especially if they ramp up to 3 shifts.

 

[souprmage]

Also, I'd like to point out that if there are specific parts availability issues, it's up to Ford to properly schedule cars to avoid that. It's not like they just pick whatever the dealers enter and add the first one on to the schedule.

They know what parts they have, when they'll get more, how many they'll get and they schedule them appropriately. There are lots of orders sitting in the unscheduled bucket that they could have chosen to balance out the packages being ordered. In fact, I'm pretty certain they already did that when putting cars on the schedule.

Perhaps a supplier simply didn't deliver a truck full of V8s on the expected delivery date.

Blaming retail buyers because dealers are using their stock allocations for them is just an odd way to aim your frustration.

All the best Seebee, we can agree to disagree.

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