2015 LE Price

[Brent302]

In my personal opinion anyone spending more than MSRP is asking for big-time negative equity. To think this car will appreciate in value or be some kind of collectors item anytime soon is foolish. Most of the people this model appeals too will be dead before it might be worth anything in 25 years. Dealers will ask what they want and I'm sure we'll see some crazy markups. Who knows if they'll actually sell for that or be showroom displays.

MSRP is a solid deal for both the buyer and the seller. Anything more is pure greed on the part of the dealer looking for a quick cash in.

This may be for someone like yourself but I'm looking to keep this car for a long time.

I'd bet money the median age for the 50TH LE is over 50.

I'm 26 guess I'm the oddball...

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[likeaboss]

Well, it is more than appearance to me, its the only way I can get the performance package. I can only operate a clutch for a short time before my hip goes out. A product of the military, although I'm classified as a DAV, I'm far from disabled, I just can't do everything most people can all of the time. Driving a stick is easy by speed shifting, but I won't do that to a new car.

BTW, I'm under 50.... for a few weeks anyhow

Thank you for your service! Why they don't offer the PP normally with an auto outside of the LE is beyond me and a very foolish decision on Ford's part. I have a feeling they'll offer a GT auto with the PP when Job 2 rolls around based on all the feedback from this site and others. Clearly all the development has been done on the LE.

This may be for someone like yourself but I'm looking to keep this car for a long time.



I'm 26 guess I'm the oddball...

Hey someone has to keep that median age down! I'm 35 and think the 50th LE is a nice looking car. I just prefer it in standard GT trim which my fiancée is getting, but my father who is 63 is getting the 50th LE.

Just for everyone's info the different between MSRP and Dealer Invoice on a manual 50th LE is $2828, this is not including holdback. The info might help with dealer negotiations.

 

[wilkinda65]

i really hate when someone who does't want the specific car for whatever their reason feels the need to come into a thread, for a car they aren't buying, to tell others how foolish it is to spend more than MSRP for a "sticker & appearance" package.

Why bother commenting if your not buying the car?

My buying the LE has nothing t do with styling cues from the past. I love the new body style and interior changes first and foremost. It has more to do with I decided I wanted the LE because of whats on it and that gorgeous interior. It's what I want and that's all that needs to be said. Anyone that is paying over MSRP does not have to justify to me or anyone else why they did. It's their money and their business.

The deal I worked out with my dealer is between them and myself.

 

[likeaboss]

i really hate when someone who does't want the specific car for whatever their reason feels the need to come into a thread, for a car they aren't buying, to tell others how foolish it is to spend more than MSRP for a "sticker & appearance" package.

Why bother commenting if your not buying the car?

My buying the LE has nothing t do with styling cues from the past. I love the new body style and interior changes first and foremost. It has more to do with I decided I wanted the LE because of whats on it and that gorgeous interior. It's what I want and that's all that needs to be said. Anyone that is paying over MSRP does not have to justify to me or anyone else why they did. It's their money and their business.

The deal I worked out with my dealer is between them and myself.

Why you ask? While I'm not buying the 50th LE for myself I'm handling the deal for my father's 50th LE. Normally those who pay more than MSRP blow up the forums complaining about the value of their car down the road. I can happily direct you to the Shelby forums full of 07 GT500 and 08/09 King of the Road buyers that are a salty bunch.

 

[JoeDogInKC]

I personally can't find a reason to spend anything over MSRP on this model, and I really wanted one. I like the different color options which are both beautiful and the ability to get an A/T with PP, but not for anything above MSRP.

 

[Mustangchief]

I personally can't find a reason to spend anything over MSRP on this model, and I really wanted one. I like the different color options which are both beautiful and the ability to get an A/T with PP, but not for anything above MSRP.

Actual cost of the LE is way more than what MRSP is, Thank You to the thousands of other Mustang buyers who are supplementing those of us who ordered LE's. The manufacturing cost of designing and getting DOT certified triple pane glass for the LE probably cost a huge chunk of change. The large automotive glass providers said it was impossible to do. That kind of engineering doesn't come cheap.

It appears that the manufacturer and the dealers are out to get you, right. If they don't have any profit margin, you have no future Mustangs or any other vehicles. We routinely pay 50 to 100% mark-up on other things we buy and don't blink because it is only a buck. If you buy a soda, MSRP is 3 cents an ounce, wholesale is less than two cents. 20% mark up on a car is about you getting a deal, because psychologically we couldn't handle profit margins that are bigger than that. Look real hard at what you spend on smaller items throughout the year, betcha you could have paid for a marked up LE if you haggled every item. If you get the car for less than MSRP, good on ya. I found one at MSRP, but was too late. I checked over 50 dealers within 300 miles and only the one had it for MSRP, because that is their policy, no ADM's even on Shelby's. I found 11 available for between 2500 and 30000 over MSRP.

I am know in my family as a super bargain hunter, I can easily spend an hour trying to save a dollar. When I saw the 2015 Black GT in person I got chills, I hadn't had that happen since I slid behind the wheel of a 69 Boss 429. An Enzo rumbling beside me was close. Then I saw the LE, it was like seeing the love of your life for the first time, she was just as shiny and gorgeous as the Black GT, but there was just a wow moment where all of the accessories made her stand out just a little bit more. Then she purred to life as they guided her back to the platform, I was smitten, and like a 36oz T-Bone on Memorial Day I had to have one, no matter the price.

 

[JoeDogInKC]

Just about every product sold to everybody contains hidden costs to pay for design, engineering, and development. Some products are sold at a loss initially or because the company will make up that loss through other means (Xbox's, for instance), but I can absolutely guarantee you that they make money on every single Mustang sold, even at A-plan or D-plan pricing. There's even enough left over for the salesperson to get a commission on sales made using those plans.

Those "hidden" costs are baked into MSRP. I just don't think that the options on the LE's are worth the additional cost (to me, that is). The biggest hitters are the chrome accents (some or all of which you get with the 50th Appearance Package), the louvered glass, PP with A/T (especially with the 20" annv wheels versus the normal black PP wheels), and the special exterior colors.

However, if you option a GT with everything, it's still at or less than the cost of an LE at MSRP. Then you can get x-plan or better on it at the same time. I *may* be able to get my 2015 GT at D-plan pricing, but I'm not 100% sure about that.

Had I found a dealer that would sell at MSRP like you did (some won't even sell the ones they're getting), I would have likely bought it. Those that are selling them over MSRP are simply pocketing the extra. I'm a capitalist, so I'm fine with that, I'm just not going to pay it. Since I wasn't able to find one at MSRP, I ordered a GT and got the options most important to me instead.

That said, if I were to find an LE at MSRP, I'd cancel my GT order and get the LE. I think it's a fair price for the options and exclusivity of the product. I really don't think that MSRP is less than what it's going to cost them to produce, even considering engineering costs, etc. There was a rough estimate provided somewhere on here about the louvered glass costing somewhere between $1000 and $1500 for each vehicle.

 

[Ericc B]

Every time I see this thread my first thought is hey Ford of France has announced their prices

 

[L8APEX]

Paying over MSRP is instant depreciation when you drive off the lot.

It is really eacy to get a LE under MSRP if you SHOP AROUND! Don't be an impulse buyer.

 

[RisingForce]

99.999999% of all cars are negative equity....so say financial advisers. I say BS, because there are many intangibles. I bought a mini van in 1990 and told my financial adviser I just invested in a new car, he ripped my butt for 15 minutes how new cars are not investments. In my letter to his company explaining why I dumped them, I consider anything that contributes to my well being an investment, so keeping the young kids separated on long family trips was indeed a huge gain. Being able to haul almost anything a pick up could and keep it dry was a plus and I went on and on. So I say to you Mr. Like a Boss, the value I get from my LE will be of great personal satisfaction. I don't care about the financial side as I can afford the luxury. (just like steak, do you get T-Bone or Round Steak, same nutrition, just one tastes better IMO) I did pay a small token over invoice, but the dealer came off his price greatly when he saw my Daughters letter to Ford. I'm in it for under 50Gs. Thankfully I didn't win the Ebay auction I bid 61K on.

You can look at it any way you want, but a vehicle is not an investment.
Gettint personal satisfaction from something is NOT investment.
You gain profit from investments, not satisfaction.
Having a vehicle that helps you avoid walking is need assessment.
But its not an investment unless you make profit out of that INVESTMENT.

Now with that said, no one can put a price on another person's satisfaction. Most of those who buy an LE are doing it for personal satisfaction, not in hopes to turn around and make a profit.

 

[Mustangchief]

You can look at it any way you want, but a vehicle is not an investment.
Gettint personal satisfaction from something is NOT investment.
You gain profit from investments, not satisfaction.
Having a vehicle that helps you avoid walking is need assessment.
But its not an investment unless you make profit out of that INVESTMENT.

Now with that said, no one can put a price on another person's satisfaction. Most of those who buy an LE are doing it for personal satisfaction, not in hopes to turn around and make a profit.

Tom is that you? I told you when I dismissed your firm you needed to invest in some education to expand your vocabulary. I shall not shout the word not at your limited vocabulary. You are hooked on the the financial definition. If you query the dictionary used by scholars, you will find "An act of devoting time, effort, or energy to a particular undertaking with the expectation of a worthwhile result:" as a definition of investment. My time and energy to locate a 50th LE should end with the expectation of the car of dreams when it is delivered. Therefore I submit I have made an investment to get a worthwhile result. When I bought 15,000 shares of Ford at $1.09 back in 2009, I had great satisfaction when it hit $17. English language is wonderful, aint it.

 

[Clink]

So can we agree you both have different opinions on what an investment means and move on?

 

[RisingForce]

Tom is that you? I told you when I dismissed your firm you needed to invest in some education to expand your vocabulary. I shall not shout the word not at your limited vocabulary. You are hooked on the the financial definition. If you query the dictionary used by scholars, you will find "An act of devoting time, effort, or energy to a particular undertaking with the expectation of a worthwhile result:" as a definition of investment. My time and energy to locate a 50th LE should end with the expectation of the car of dreams when it is delivered. Therefore I submit I have made an investment to get a worthwhile result. When I bought 15,000 shares of Ford at $1.09 back in 2009, I had great satisfaction when it hit $17. English language is wonderful, aint it.

Lay of the drugs kid. Who the f is Tom?
I explained it simple and sweet for you. You get all bent out of shape and turn this into personal attack and feeling paranoid about some Tom that you may or may not have had a deep relationship with but he left you for someone else ?


in·vest·ment
inˈves(t)mənt/
noun
* the action or process of investing money for profit or material result.



With your crappy definition , buying a gallon of milk is an investment.
Have fun with your LE , but perhaps you should've INVESTED your time into treating others with respect. Specially when you don't know them.

 

[RisingForce]

So can we agree you both have different opinions on what an investment means and move on?

 

[Moderator]

Ok enough guys. Let's move on before I have to edit/remove posts please...

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