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My Whipple kit finally came in this past week and I've started the instal and have some questions and comments that may help others who are doing this and fare ollowing the directions. Mostly the disassembly is smooth and straight forward and most of the installation as well with the exception of a couple problems that I came across. Some of the directions may need updating or clarifications, or if I have missed something please advise.


1. First issue I had was with the coolant pump harness connection to the blue IMRC 2 way connection. The manual says on step 77 to connect the fan harness /pump to the 2 way pass side IMRC connector. The problem is there are 2 connections identical looking both are blue. The manual could be more specific as to the wiring colors on the connector that is used.
Edit: it was my oversight and pointed out by Whipple that to the right of the pump wiring schematic in step 77 there is a description of the wiring color identifying the IMRC plug to connect to. Edit: I checked the plug wire colors and the yellow/green with grey stripe is the shorter of the 2 plug, so it had it wrong in this picture so I switched it.





2. Instructions step 90 for installing the manifold bolts the 6mm Allen heads screws says to install the (4) 6mmx90mm bolts thought the fuel rail hand tight. Step 91 says now instal the (6) 6mmx40mm bolts manifold bolts hand tight. Now step 92'says to torque them down using a 5mm Allen socket. The problem is the middle manifold bolts 40mm long are under the fuel rail and are not accessible to torque down. This step is very hard to do without a 5mm ball end which allows you to tighten it at an angle I suggest Whipple supply the 5mm ball end to fit in a socket wrench so it can be torqued down to spec.




3. Whipple fuel line installation in step 95 says to instal the supplied fuel line to the drivers side firewall fuel line. The problem is the fuel line supplied in my kit does not match the Whipple fuel line pictured in step 95 the bottom picture below. The fuel line in my kit is about 4" long with mail and female connections, but the line pictured in step 95 is about 8" long and has both female ends. So my 4" fuel line can't connect to the factory hard line on the firewall. The short fuel line I have with my kit can only connect to the long rubber OEM line connected to the firewall hard line, and this seems way too long.




4. Maybe this one will seem nit picky, but never the less left me scratching my head. Step 99 instal of the EVAP solenoid has no mention of the quick connect fitting pictured on mine to be stainless steel and in the picture it's already installed and is black. The confusion I had was this quick connect fitting was not installed and was not mentioned in the manual step 99, I had to find it and guess which fitting it was.




5. This may be another question and not an issue, but may help others who see this and say what!! On the crusher 132mm throttle body their are large gaps between the throttle blades when fully closed. So yes when you cycle the throttle body it's spring loaded and hits a preset stop and this gap is left. Is this normal?

Edit: Whipple confirmed this is normal and tested this way.

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I just got a PM from Justin at Whipple for answer on question 3 and 5 above. For question 3 Dustin says the Whipple supplied fuel line now has changed and is now common with the F150 Whipple kits. So he says the the banjo fitting now must be moved to the front of the drivers side rail to make it fit with the longer rubber factory hose. The short fuel line supplied by whipple now common with the F150 connectes to the long rubber factory hose and is connected to the top of the banjo fitting moved to the front. I hope this will be updated in the manuals being shipped out for now on.

Question 5 was the gap in throttle blade when closed for the Crusher 132mm throttle body. Dustin at Whipple says this is correct and setup and tested this way.
 
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I think my I/C pump worked on either plug.
 
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I think my I/C pump worked on either plug.
Hmmm, are you sure! Dustin said he would get me the wire colors going to the blue IMRC plug to be used.
 

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yea if it doesnt you just switch it.
 

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1. I had the same problem, it does not work on either plug. I initially had the wrong one, the pump/fan just never comes on, swap the plugs and its fixed.

2. I'd like a good explanation on how to do this... I ended up using washers, torquing it down, then removing the 4 under the fuel rail and re-doing it.

3. Mine was a shorty like the picture

4. Also confused on this, but we waited until we were almost done and there were only a couple left. So we figured they went there. I did spend a few minutes digging through the packs looking for the black ones.
 
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1. I had the same problem, it does not work on either plug. I initially had the wrong one, the pump/fan just never comes on, swap the plugs and its fixed.

2. I'd like a good explanation on how to do this... I ended up using washers, torquing it down, then removing the 4 under the fuel rail and re-doing it.

3. Mine was a shorty like the picture

4. Also confused on this, but we waited until we were almost done and there were only a couple left. So we figured they went there. I did spend a few minutes digging through the packs looking for the black ones.
With your short fuel line did you route the banjo fitting to the front and connect the fuel line there?
 

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and my other question was, the parts list showed the fans coming with 8 rubber feet... the manual never mentions these. I assume they are not used, but if so, why are they packed? :eek:
 

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With your short fuel line did you route the banjo fitting to the front and connect the fuel line there?
the banjo was in the back of the drivers side, so it was a short connection to the hard fuel line.
 

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Right I get that, but Whipple should should define the right on in the manual.
I just picked the one biased closer to the passenger side like the manual said...
 
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the banjo was in the back of the drivers side, so it was a short connection to the hard fuel line.
Hmmm...the short fuel line I have will not connect to the hard line becuase for one it's too short maybe 4" and it has a male push lock fitting on one side.
 

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Do you not have this going on for your fuel line by the fire wall? When they say hard line, they mean metal. It looks like you still have part of the soft line attached. I kind of remember the instructions weren't very clear about removing the whole thing, and you'll need a fuel line disconnect tool to do it.





 
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I'm joking !!!!! Hope you get it all figured out and welcome to FI you'll love it!
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Do you not have this going on for your fuel line by the fire wall? When they say hard line, they mean metal. It looks like you still have part of the soft line attached. I kind of remember the instructions weren't very clear about removing the whole thing, and you'll need a fuel line disconnect tool to do it.





Right I agree the directions here are vague, and that's why I was scratching my head, my supplied fuel line is shorter than yours and according to Whipple now is used with the soft runner OE line. I also need to move the banjo fitting from the back to the front. The directions don't say this as they have not been updated.

Here see how short my supplied Whipple line is, I wish I had the dedicated line that you have. The fuel line now is common with the F150 and is not as clean.
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