Aussie Mustang - Oil change warning

GT 550 said:

Sure is :eyebulge:

Guys I just remembered something, when I spoke to Castrol they said there is an Edge A5 ie Ford spec oil but it's rare and specified by Land Rover.

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There is a Castrol Edge Product that meets ACEA A5/B5. The problem that seems to muddy the waters is that while it meets a range of Ford Specs, Castrol Edge does not meet WSS-M2C913-D (the spec for the Coyote Engine). For example, Castrol Edge Data Sheet lists Ford Specs WSS- M2C..... (153-H, 929-A, 930-A, 937-A, 945-A, 946-A). But not 913-D.
Also getting mixed up in this is the opinions from Castrol (and some Ford dealers in my experience) that Castrol Edge is "good oil", so should be OK. I have no doubt that the oil is of good quality, it is just not the correct spec.
Separately on the topic of the cost of the oil on the Ford Service Invoice, I don't put too much faith in the cost allocations. In my case, I was advised that the Ford Australia fixed price for 15,000km applied ($435). The dealer just conveniently split up the costs to equal $435. They listed them as Labour $130.98, Parts $142.15, POL $122.32, Tax $39.55. On the first page of the invoice, the oil was listed at $131.04, and the filter at $11.11 (shown as Parts $142.15). Surprisingly POL was listed as "Synthetic C3 5W/30 $96.52 and Supplies/Enviro Charges $25.80. Given that no Synthetic C3 5W/30 went anywhere near my car, I think the whole thing is a balancing/allocation exercise to hit the quoted $435.

Bernborough said:

There is a Castrol Edge Product that meets ACEA A5/B5. The problem that seems to muddy the waters is that while it meets a range of Ford Specs, Castrol Edge does not meet WSS-M2C913-D (the spec for the Coyote Engine). For example, Castrol Edge Data Sheet lists Ford Specs WSS- M2C..... (153-H, 929-A, 930-A, 937-A, 945-A, 946-A). But not 913-D.
Also getting mixed up in this is the opinions from Castrol (and some Ford dealers in my experience) that Castrol Edge is "good oil", so should be OK. I have no doubt that the oil is of good quality, it is just not the correct spec.

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yes thats my understanding too.
question is can anyone find 5 litre packs of Castrol Magnatec Professional A5 5W-30 to spec WSS-M2C913-D in the likes of Supercheap?
The only way I could buy it in its smallest volume is 60L and thats coming direct from Castrol.
That then makes me wonder how they can sell a car that you can't easily get the specified oil for?
In the UK 5L packs of Castrol Magnatec Professional A5 5W-30 to spec WSS-M2C913-D, C are available from Ford dealers, the packs are co branded Ford / Castrol.

You can get it in 20l drums but retail store like Supercheap and Repco won't have it on the shelf though Repco I believe will at least order it.

What's the volume required for an oil change?

7.6L for the V8 (Including Filter)
5.4L for the 2.3(Including Filter)

apsilon said:

What's the volume required for an oil change?

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Perhaps you could try Castrol Magnatec Stop - Start 5W/30 A5. It meets WSS-M2C913-D. Repco currently have 6litre packs on special at A$49.99.

last time I asked Repco the young lad on the counter tried to tell me that Penrite was the way to go.

poor lad just did not get that I was looking for Castrol Magnatec Professional A5 5W-30 to spec WSS-M2C913-D (specifically)

was easier to walk away that try to explain myself further....LOL

Nulon have a fully synthetic 5w30 that meets ford spec WSS-M2C913-D. Readily available at Supercheap and Repco.

So Magnatec Stop Start is the same spec as Professional? Or different but they both meet the spec?

Decided to go with Liqui-Moly that meets the specs and can be found for $89.

http://www.liqui-moly.com.au/products/leichtlauf-special-5w-30/

Erez said:

Decided to go with Liqui-Moly that meets the specs and can be found for $89.

http://www.liqui-moly.com.au/products/leichtlauf-special-5w-30/

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I know it says it on that link but where does one find the Ford specs for oil? Surely most fully synthetic 5w30 would be suitable?

spiller said:

I know it says it on that link but where does one find the Ford specs for oil? Surely most fully synthetic 5w30 would be suitable?

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The spec is WSS-M2C913-D according to the service book in the glove box.
A Google search with this spec should bring up oils that are compatible.

Updated Oil list

GT oil

Castrol Magnatecpro 5a 5w30
Havoline FS 5W-30
Valvolene synthetic FE 5W30
Penrite Full Synthetic 5w 30
SPECIAL TEC F | 5W-30
Mobil Super 3000 X1 Formula FE 5W-30
Royal Purple HPS 5W30
Nulon Full Synthetic 5W-30
Motul

Ecoboost Oil

Valvolene synpower FE 5W30

Just had this flapping warning come on again.

Six months/3000km after last dealer service.

Promptly ignored and reset.

Mine 5 months old, 5000 km.
Girl at reception came out and reset it.
At least I checked the oil.

I have done 6500 km, no service message.
Did the oil and filter anyway.