This is why i could never buy a 6th gen Camaro

HISSMAN said:

My neighbor just went through living hell with his Giulia. Finally just traded it in. He had it home for a grand total of 9 days out of 4 months of ownership. Fuel pump issues...Electrical gremlins. ... All sorts of fun stuff.

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So your saying the new Alfa’s work just as well as the old Alfa’s?

bluebeastsrt said:

So your saying the new Alfa’s work just as well as the old Alfa’s?

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According to him, that seems to be the case. What's sad is that he traded in a 1M coupe' for it that was hella nice.

I guess the non stop crap quality scores for Alfa/Fiat/Chrysler on multiple online sources isn't enough to stop people from buying crappy cars. When Chrysler found Alfa, they thought two negatives would make a positive, lol.

Zelek said:

I guess the non stop crap quality scores for Alfa/Fiat/Chrysler on multiple online sources isn't enough to stop people from buying crappy cars. When Chrysler found Alfa, they thought two negatives would make a positive, lol.

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A lady at my work has two Alfas and has praised their average reliability. She did mention she hasn't had any serious issues during her ownership, but it's also way too early to tell. They are pretty dang nice to look at though, reliability issues aside.

She drives her 2018 Giulia when the weather is crap and her 2018 4C on sunny days.

bootlegger said:

I don't notice much wheel hop, but I have an 18. I get a little when I really force it, but I am sure that could be eliminated with a few cheap components from Steeda or BMR.

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I was moreso speaking about my 16 GT PP. I haven't gotten any on the 18 yet. Again though, I'm not one that likes to burn up my tires so I usually roll off the line unless im at the drag strip. I went last friday and didn't get any on the 4s tires.

TURTL3 said:

I think they got it somewhat right with the 15-17 refresh, but they pooped the bed with the 2018 refresh. Great platform, but terrible styling.

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I still have a hard time understanding when people say this. I know styling is subjective but to say they failed is kind of laughable. My car is bellow and the only thing I feel like they got wrong was the edge of the headlamps. I don't understand why they angled it like that. The rear of the car is more polished I think. The angular lamps flow better now have owning both. The lower valance is more aggressive and the quads only help it more. I feel like the front end is more aggressive then my last one but in a completely different way. I feel like I didn't really start to like my 16 until I lowered it and removed the grill. I have been completely content with the stock looks of my 18 that I don't even feel like changing anything on it other than the tune. The interior really isn't any different.

wireeater said:

I still have a hard time understanding when people say this. I know styling is subjective but to say they failed is kind of laughable. My car is bellow and the only thing I feel like they got wrong was the edge of the headlamps. I don't understand why they angled it like that. The rear of the car is more polished I think. The angular lamps flow better now have owning both. The lower valance is more aggressive and the quads only help it more. I feel like the front end is more aggressive then my last one but in a completely different way. I feel like I didn't really start to like my 16 until I lowered it and removed the grill. I have been completely content with the stock looks of my 18 that I don't even feel like changing anything on it other than the tune. The interior really isn't any different.

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The only thing I don't love about the 18 is the inner corner of the head light. That gap just kills me. Other than that and only that the 18 looks killer!

Braski said:

The only thing I don't love about the 18 is the inner corner of the head light. That gap just kills me. Other than that and only that the 18 looks killer!

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Not the best photos but picture of my 17 GT and 18 GT. I think the 18 front is much better, the angles all match up.

I have zero problems with the Camaro's looks. I think they look mean. I think the Mustangs look mean too. To me both look good. I just got a way better deal on my used GT. Plus I didn't care for the lack of visibility in the Camaro. It wasn't awful but the GT's was so much better.