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  1. So I was in for routine maintenance..

    Some get multiple allocations but, most likely, they bought the allocation from another dealer.
  2. Drag Race Showdown: 2020 GT500 vs Challenger Hellcat Redeye vs Camaro ZL1!

    They produced the S197 that led to the resurrection of the Challenger and Camaro models? They introduced the first GT500 since the ‘70’s? Ford sold a lot more Mustangs?
  3. Drag Race Showdown: 2020 GT500 vs Challenger Hellcat Redeye vs Camaro ZL1!

    Again, I never made a declarative statement one way or another. Because I questioned your opinion based on disparate data you compiled from various sources does not mean I expect any given outcome. You, on the other hand, have cleverly made record of the fact that the ZL1 1LE "might" or...
  4. Drag Race Showdown: 2020 GT500 vs Challenger Hellcat Redeye vs Camaro ZL1!

    Find any post where I made a declarative statement it would.
  5. Drag Race Showdown: 2020 GT500 vs Challenger Hellcat Redeye vs Camaro ZL1!

    I read the entire post I quoted you from. On one hand you want to extrapolate ZL1 1LE superiority at track based on various data sources but when someone suggests that the CFTP will outperform it in the same venue, you declare that it’s just speculation, as no head-to-head rest of them, by...
  6. Drag Race Showdown: 2020 GT500 vs Challenger Hellcat Redeye vs Camaro ZL1!

    Yet a few posts ago, you declared the ZL1 1LE the winner at the track.
  7. Drag Race Showdown: 2020 GT500 vs Challenger Hellcat Redeye vs Camaro ZL1!

    Off topic, but have you posted in any thread on this site that does not involve a Camaro vs Mustang discussion since you've joined?
  8. Drag Race Showdown: 2020 GT500 vs Challenger Hellcat Redeye vs Camaro ZL1!

    What led you to believe I was angry? I was actually seeking your opinion on why anyone would buy a GT500 over a ZL1, given the similar performance but big price disparity. If that made you feel attacked and that you needed to go on the defensive, I apologize. In my experience, working...
  9. Drag Race Showdown: 2020 GT500 vs Challenger Hellcat Redeye vs Camaro ZL1!

    So, after pages and pages of discussion, what is your explanation as to why anyone would be buying a GT500, CFTP or base? it's not just "Mustang fanboys" buying these cars. They might be a majority, but not the only ones. You and blaq on the other forum keep making the cost/performance...
  10. Drag Race Showdown: 2020 GT500 vs Challenger Hellcat Redeye vs Camaro ZL1!

    Nobody in their right mind is going to autocross a GT500, so that’s a moot point. There are some who feel that if the GT500 does not significantly outperform the ZL1 1LE on both technical track and those with long straights, it is somehow a failure. Simply not true.
  11. Drag Race Showdown: 2020 GT500 vs Challenger Hellcat Redeye vs Camaro ZL1!

    I think the ZL1 1LE and CFTP GT500 will be pretty close, too. Primarily because the 1LE was engineered to put down the very best lap times while the GT500 is engineered to be a grand tourer. The 1LE can be driven on the street, obviously, but it will never be as comfortable in that venue as...
  12. Drag Race Showdown: 2020 GT500 vs Challenger Hellcat Redeye vs Camaro ZL1!

    And some , cough *hotlap” cough, even encourage him. I guess when you’re an old fart who’s extent of spirited driving in the last 20 years is going to the store and back in your Hotwheels edition Camaro, you have to live vicariously through another. I think the only reason he likes blaq is...
  13. Drag Race Showdown: 2020 GT500 vs Challenger Hellcat Redeye vs Camaro ZL1!

    I drove my GT350R with its Cup2’s many times in temps below 40 degrees, parking outside for hours at a time, and never saw any signs of cracking/damage. Not saying it couldn’t happen, I just never experienced it.
  14. 2020 GT500 CFTP Destroys C8 Corvette - Motortrend Comparison Review

    I know, right? Instead of enjoying the car(s) they bought, they're too busy trying to convince other people why they were stupid to buy something other than the vehicle they chose and all the reasons that led to them making that purchase assuming everyone has the same priorities as they do.
  15. 2020 GT500 CFTP Destroys C8 Corvette - Motortrend Comparison Review

    True. but some significantly more than others.
  16. 2020 GT500 CFTP Destroys C8 Corvette - Motortrend Comparison Review

    They already lost. People are already passing over the Camaro for other choices. If the ZL1 1LE loses to the GT500 in a comparison, they won’t sell more of them. They might if they beat a GT500 CFTP. By the way, it is lose, not loose.
  17. 2020 GT500 CFTP Destroys C8 Corvette - Motortrend Comparison Review

    Yes, Ford can absolutely refuse to supply a test car, but Ford is not the only source to obtain one. Maybe it’s GM that won’t offer up a ZL1 1LE for such a comparison!
  18. 2020 GT500 CFTP Destroys C8 Corvette - Motortrend Comparison Review

    There is no doubt that Chevy wins the performance-for-dollar argument. But having the upper hand in that argument is not helping them sell cars. I think that’s what rubs so many Camaro fans the wrong way; despite a worse performance/dollar ratio, the demand for the Mustang, specifically the...
  19. 2020 GT500 CFTP Destroys C8 Corvette - Motortrend Comparison Review

    Because I don’t own a Camaro and would be inevitably be labeled a troll by not marching in lockstep with any given topic related to the Mustang/Camaro rivalry. Besides, I would poke so many holes in blaq's diatribes/logic that he would blow a gasket or need medical attention. I don't want to...
  20. 2020 GT500 CFTP Destroys C8 Corvette - Motortrend Comparison Review

    Would someone please let the folks over at the C6 Camaro site know that Ford has no control over what vehicles a publisher chooses to compare for an article/blog. Ford does not reach out to Motor Trend or C&D to say, "we don't want to you to compare the GT500 to _______. It's not a...





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