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I'd change the subject too to a different model car if I didn't have a point or proof of what I was ranting about. The Camaro performs just fine. Just because you can't drive the car like the guy who does it for a living doesn't mean jack. I'm sorry that the car ran a fast lap on dry/performance...

Where's the tried and failed video?

I'd be shocked if you or I personally could get within 5 seconds of any times the GT350R set on various tracks. Because generally no one who buys the car will be able to pull of the hero times.

So GM had dry/summer only racing tires and somehow set a record lap with them only because of higher performance tires that don't work well in rain, on a lap where it rained. Got it.

Nah that's fair. I thought you were saying times/runs from different days. My bad. I can't read I guess. I just get annoyed with people claiming "ringers" when a car does well. Could there have been one? Maybe? I doubt it. Cause from what I've seen people post on here it's always that or a...

Where are you going with this? Cause if you're going to whine about using PERFORMANCE tires when running a car on a track I'll point and laugh at you every time for making such a dumb point. They used a performance tire on a performance car.... Waaaaaaaaahhh. That's you. I'm sorry you think...

Like the same way no one saw the time the 350 ran at the ring? Because plenty of people on here including you believe that that time happened. And dyno pulls are unreliable. You've said that yourself. Maybe it was a dyno showing numbers on the high end for that set of pulls? Or are dynos...

Yup. Remember when the ZL1 had a timed video and it beat the time of the 350 that doesn't have a video for proof? What did some of the ford guys say? Oh the time that the 350 set which was listed on a questionable site that has been known to lie and doesn't have video proof is real but the...

We would like to report that the GT500 has been canned. Hey Kevin, did I do it right?

Suuuuurrrrreee. And the Camaro would never lose 200 lbs. And there's a ZL1, then there's a ZL1 1LE. You keep using the word merged. I don't think you understands what it means. Cause if those two cars were merged, there wouldn't be a ZL1 and ZL1 1LE. Kinda the opposite of the word merged. And...

Exactly. It's impressive what they've done with the current platform compared to the old. I'll trash talk all day for fun, but the current gen Mustang (ESPECIALLY with the refresh coming) is great. I'm guessing next gen they'll incorporate a lot more aluminum on top of the other changes...

If he posts something and claims it's true. You have about a 4/5 chance that it isn't necessarily and something he came up with (speculation) or something he's manipulated in a way that has bent the truth a bit. The tires? Ok cool. Maybe it should have. It didn't. The Hellcat didn't come with...

So you're saying we should put slippery tires with crap suspension on performance cars? Cause what you're saying is pretty much the recipe for any manufacturer and quick car. How dare they improve the suspension and improve the car with this and other kind of stuff instead of magic... :rolleyes:

Oh I don't disagree on the crap talk part. I think they hand out warnings no matter which side you're on though. I've seen the same thing happen on pretty much any forum. If you think it's bad on car forums... You should see the gaming forums... ugh. It's like this. Except everyone is 12...

It's a gift, really. :ninja: Edit: I'd also like to point out that I edited my post right after with the grammar insult. You're just too fast for me on the reply button. :p I get a little over excited and my inner gaming troll comes out sometimes. I attempt to quickly reel him in though.

I think people should love competition. Not hate it. (Note I didn't say love THE competition.) Could the Mustang be in the same spot if the Camaro didn't exist? Maybe. But it never hurts to have a competitor out there encouraging you to put your best product forward. Who knows... You might be...

Whoa... I said I like how they looked. I didn't say I'd go buy one. I have no interest in being broke down on the side of the road in Houston. lol

And that's fine. I respect that you don't like the other brand. I just like when there's a discussion that goes further than. "Well I don't like it and think it's junk, so it's junk." Also take me for a ride in your GT350.

I meant for this gen as a retail vehicle. AKA the GT500. Calm down. :p

I won't argue with that. But I love me some WS6 Trans Am... IJS.