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I think it has to do more with not being a dick than respecting the other brand. Something I am generally bad at in the right circumstances. :shrug:

Hopefully soon, Ford decides to join the HiPo party.

Yep. ;) So just enjoy your Mustang and I'll enjoy discussing differences between the Camaro and Mustang. I don't do it out of spite or because I don't like the Mustang. I just enjoy the rivalry and it's fun to discuss the difference of two fun, yet different, go fast machines.

And further proving my point by posting another un-related argument... My Nissan is a daily driver. It also has four cylinders, just like your Mustang. I haven't quoted a single performance figure regarding this car, and in fact have stated multiple times throughout my time on here that...

And then he's lost his argument he replies with this pretty much every time. Or some version of "This is a Mustang forum" (See previous post). Why is that you may ask? Because some people can't hold an intelligent conversation regarding a rivalry just to discuss differences and enjoy their...

So... Let me know where you're finding those 2017 ZL1s for 40% off. I'll go buy one.

Better yet. How many Camaros have that? The answer would also be none. However if you asked how many Camaros and Mustangs from 2015 that are new have 20%+ off though... That answer would be, a lot. In fact there's plenty of GTs out there with over $10k off. And that's not necessarily a bad...

Voodooo. I like you and your opinions even if we don't agree on things for the most part, and I'm really not trying to be a dick with this. But I feel like you just recently partially argued the exact opposite point with a different arrangement. Although you did say you agree with me on the...

There's still 2015 Mustangs brand new on the lot... 360 New Mustangs on Auto Trader. Meanwhile there's only 88 New Camaro's showing on Auto Trader. Does that speak even louder volumes..?:crazy: Might want to look up things before you run your mouth. That being said I don't think...

The upgrades from the refresh are pretty hard to pass up though... I understand not really caring for some of the cosmetic changes though. Maybe go see one in person, it might grow on you. And... then maybe it won't. Might be at least worth the test drive.

Didn't the first year of Z/28's sell out? I don't think their problem was pricing themselves out of the market. I think they over-saturated/estimated it. You could probably argue the former but that thing sold out fast that first year. They should have kept it limited production much like...

Did thePill get a second account again? o.O

I thought they said 60 lbs of weight savings on their reveal which I would think is pretty attainable. Maybe not though..? Hell, I got near that just unbolting all the useless crap in my 5th gen ZL1 like the back seat/passenger seat/belts and all the trunk trim that was easily removable...

They did this with the last gen. Every time they release a new "top dog" Camaro they say the exact same thing. They said that about the 5th gen ZL1 as well and then said it again about the Z/28. Technically they weren't lying as far as the Camaro goes at the respective reveal times. The...

Oh man... Sounds like angry sex. Really though. That sounds sick! :thumbsup:

What? You mean to tell me that a sports car in the snow with DRs is a bad idea? o.O

1. Corsa is by far my favorite exhaust personally. Definitely will make the car sound great. 2. I can't speak for superchargers because I've never went that route on a car. I'm sure someone else will have useful advice. As far as SCing for a DD though, it's usually a better option than doing...

Probably around the same time you quit crying about it in the versus section.

Man... I'm actually pretty impressed with some of those. What happened to commercials like this? lol

I do think the rear end could use some work as well... But for me, anything beats what was the fuster-cluck of a rear end the refreshed 5th gen Camaro had... I know looks are subjective but I couldn't for the life of me understand what the design team was thinking when they had the rear diffuser...