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  1. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    So the US GT PP Premium w/ 12 speaker system and Recaros is 3822? Euro GT starts at 3792. Doesn't include the 12 speaker system(comes with 9), navigation(comes with 8 inch touch display not sure if navigation is a different display that weighs more or weighs the same) or climate controlled...
  2. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    What do you mean "in total options". Im guessing you're talking about base US GT-3705lbs to GT PP Premium 3810lbs?(not sure about weight here). This means a total of 105lbs of options from base to loaded. Now the Euro GT at 3792 seems to start out with some more equipment than base US GT but...
  3. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    I don't think it can be KERB weights. If 02GT's weights are KERB weights with 75KG for driver then why doesn't this add up? GT:1720-75=1645 not 1651. Off by only 6kg. EB:1655-75 = 1580 not 1620. So this would mean that either the original weights are off by 40kg or the newer weights from...
  4. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    I guess it's a good thing we didn't just move on like we were told. Good find 02GT. This can't possibly be refuted... Can it?
  5. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    I'm working off an iPad man. It can be hard to catch every post. I'm asking where specifically is the weight loss? What materials are differnt? Is there higher alum content in the euro gt. Is there less beefy, brakes,suspension etc. or different seats maybe? Curious to see if the. 65lbs is...
  6. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    I think the question should be where did all the weight go from US to euro and why did ford screw the U.S. Customers if they really could have offered a 3640lb gt. there's no way camaro could have come close to that if it's legitimately the euro weight.
  7. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    I believe he's saying that a Euro EB is approx equivalent to a US EB PP premium. A Euro GT Base is approx equivalent to a US GT Base. He belives both weight figures provided in the table are sans feul. Also he estimates there is a 113 lb difference between GT base and GT PP. Therefore this...
  8. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    I want someone with a F*CK TON of money to put an LS3 and/or and LT1 into a mustang and see which car performs better. Or put a Coyote into a Camaro. This would be finally settle the disputes in my opinion (as far as performance goes). I wont fault the LT1 for reliability issue 1 year into...
  9. '16 Camaro rejected by All Star MVP Mike Trout

    Hey your from NJ too. What town you live in? It's a shame that homegrown talent can't make it to the Phils. They're awful right now.
  10. '16 Camaro rejected by All Star MVP Mike Trout

    That's pretty funny. But you do know that he got a corvette last year. So what does he need a mustang or a Camaro for? JK
  11. GT350 vs. Z/28

    Is the ls7 really that inefficient(difference between fuel economy and actual efficiency of an engine-hp/l does not equate to efficiency)? It was allowed a 2 gallon increase, and the gt350 is getting a 5 gallon increase? Does the gt350 come stock with a smaller gas tank compared to other...
  12. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    That's as close as well ever get to seeing thePill admit he was wrong about something lol
  13. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    The nostrils are horrible, headlights are squinty belt line is way to high and it has slits for windows. The ats-v is alright but I hate the way the headlights go half way up the hood like that. WTF.
  14. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    I'm not talking about the distance of the edge of the car to the parking line. I'm talking about the distance of the lines on either side of the Camaro vs the distance of lines on either side of the ats. On my screen the Camaros parking space lines are about 4.25 inches apart while the ats...
  15. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    Perfect example of camera angles making things look smaller/larger in comparison. Look at the yellow lines of the parking spaces. See how far apart the lines of the camaro parking space looks compared to the Ats-v. The ats is further away in the picture and looks smaller than it actually is in...
  16. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    I think the changes from the 2010-2013=>2014-2015=>2016+ Camaro mirror the way the mustang evolved from 2005-2009 => 2010-2012=>2013-2014. The 2015 mustang change was revolutionary but the previous years were evolutionary. It could be that the next go around the Camaro changes will be more...
  17. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    I thought the same. Cars are allowed to spin their engines at whatever rpm they want. There is definitely an rpm range and gearing set that would allow an LS7 car to be very competitive with the 5.2 (not taking into account restrictions on displacement). With optimal gearing in each car at no...
  18. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    I gave my brother my xplan pin and he walked out the door with a GTPP for right around 35k. I'll have to ask him what his total cost was in the end. We actually pulled a fast one, your supposed to only be able to share pins with members of the same household(meaning living at the same...
  19. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    So because it's okay to compare similarity equipped ss to gtpp with a $3-4k price difference, you think it's a fair competition to load up an ss with options so that it is $3-4k away from base gt350 and use that comparison to declare camaro a failure? Lol at that logic. Having said that...
  20. 2017 Ford Mustang will outperform Chevy Camaro in every way

    Nice post but I was talking about total pony cars sold for Ford vs Gm. So your missing the firebird cougar etc..





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