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I'm sure GM would take him up on that. I'm equally sure that Ford would run, hide and avoid it like the plague. Life is tough for supercars with the ZR1 around. There used to be a performance chasm between a supercar and an attainable sports car. With the C7 Corvette, specially the Z06/ZR1 it...

For the same reason Porsche also invariably uses the same development engineer - Walter Rohrl - to set its road car Nurburgring ring times. Consistency. What they are after is continuous incremental improvements, year after year, model after model, driven with the same safety margin, by an...

You must have some reading comprehension issues. I was comparing drivers, not cars. Put the C7.R Rolex pro racing drivers on a car. Put Jim Mero on the same car. The C7.R team drivers are much faster. As they should be. Just like Billy Johnson is much faster than any Ford staff test engineer...

Your use of profanity, just shows your desperation to move away from the facts, into obfuscations. Why did Ford "hastily flew a pro race car driver in"? Is Ford in the habit of flying in their LeMan race car drives to troubleshoot their sports cars? Ford had a team supporting the Ford GT at...

The key piece of information is that a Z06 manual came within ~1sec of the Ford GT time, driven by Mero. The C7.R race drivers are all much faster than Jim Mero. So conceivably, they could beat Billy Johnson's (Ford GT LeMans race driver) Ford GT VIR time in a Z06. They would not even need to...

The VIR GM outing was a 2019 Corvette Validation for multiple models, where they ran the cars over 24 hrs. Jim Mero drove the manual Z06 and that came just slightly more than 1 sec behind the Ford GT lap record. Then he drove the ZR1and came over 1 sec faster than the Ford GT. All tests were...

I repasted (above) from another thread where this has already been discussed. The discussion quickly degenerated with the Ford Apologist Lawyers saying that anyone who tracks the car would want to add their own coolers anyway, and how stupid it would be for Ford to do like GM and add the...

Seriously? Ford states right on the owners manual that if you want to drive the PP2 on track you should add aftermarket coolers. I.E. not recommended, endorsed, supported running them on track as they come from factory. Here is the exact text from Ford:

The Vette actually has 13 heat exchangers. I think the likelihood of a massively turbocharged mid-rear car overheating is much, much greater than a supercharged front-mid car overheating. Everyone who designs or races mid-rear engine cars know how tough it is to manage and get rid of heat. And...

Nope. Drama is drama. Buying a Ford GT has immense drama (application process and all this BS). Buying a GT350R has high drama - finding one, dealing with a dealer who may be more interested in keeping it on display than selling it, etc. Buying a GT350 has minor drama - finding them, allocation...

I too dislike GM in general and how they and their unions extorted the US for a bailout. But as a consumer, if they keep on churning performance cars at bargain basement prices, I'll take advantage of it. So far I have purchased ONE GM vehicle (C7 Corvette Z51) in 2 decades. And it was one heck...

The lowest cost vehicle from Ford, with proper brakes (2-piece rotors, fixed calipers) and proper cooling for fluids is the GT350. GT350s and specially GT350Rs, due to limited supply go for MSRP and MSRP+markup and it is a lot of drama to buy them. You have to deal with dealer BS. GM has...

I think Ford did what they needed/should do. It was fun to watch. And I'm glad it ended well and in fun.

Honestly, I don't know how or more precisely why they do it. It is great for me as a buyer, but the high volume dealers selling 1SS1LE for $38K, 2SS1LE for $45K, Z51 for $52K, Grand Sports for $62K does not seem to be a good business. I think the performance of these Ford and GM cars that we...

OK. I just today (actually yesterday since it is past midnight) created an ID on that site. I thought I had one, it said my email was never registered, so I created one. Don't think I posted anything there (can't remember), but have read it, since I have never owned a Camaro to learn. Lots of...

I'm with you there. And as I said many times before. All these cars we are discussing are awesome. The SS1LE is just an "out of the box, ready to run, bargain" with all the coolers, fixed calipers in all 4 corners. The only whine on my part is Ford not offering a similarly priced Mustang GT...

I'm far from an expert in suspension tuning, but I have spoken to a Multimatic "sales engineer" (engineer trying to convince folks in a racing series I was on (NASA GTS) to use/buy their shocks). My understanding is that GM and Multimatic developed under GM NDA multiple computer models, testing...

Geeeeeezusssss - Mustang GT understeered right into the GT350 and almost took it and the RS out. And this with cars with no roll gages!!! Could have ended very badly. And the Mustang GT should not even been there. It is not a Ford Performance vehicle. Other than that, it was fun. :)

Where did that come from? I think the discussion here has turned mostly constructive. Why try to derail it. The Ford GT is more special than the ZR1. The GT350 is more special than ZL1. Period. Track performance is just one of many parameters for the desirability or success of a car. One that...

Cars like the Ford GT, 918, LaFerrari, etc are purpose-built, no-expense-spared vehicles. They are priced almost exclusively based on how many will be built - an arbitrary decision to create scarcity. Those cars are un-obtanium for virtually all of us. A Z06, which was only slightly more...