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Lol. So basically, your argument is, I'm not excited so no one is? Ford has some excellent products coming down the pike. 1. The '18 Mustang info was released recently and the order books show a hardcore "track pack" like package will be available. Should basically make the GT a GT350...

Interesting indeed. Looks like the GT350 with the track pack (spoiler), but I'm not sure. Also, BMW's DCT vs manual in the Mustang. Sounds like the 18 Mustang with the PP2 should be able to take it.

What I find funny, is the people who are on this forum who claim the Mustang has moved too up-market, would be in here complaining that Ford isn't innovating and lagging behind the competition if it didn't have these upmarket features. Don't forget, the market is what drives Ford to make many...

I don't claim to be an insider for Chevy, but as a publicly traded company, their financial details are not all that difficult to decode. Actually, it's much hard for a non-publically traded company to hide financials. If you can provide some evidence otherwise of Chevy's profit margin OR the...

Please post your findings on GM profit margins on the Camaro to support this. This is literally laughable, on average most manufacturers are making around a 6-7% profit margin on vehicles. http://marketrealist.com/2015/02/intense-competition-leads-low-profit-margins-automakers/...

Awesome stuff! More Mustang sales = more money invested in the platform. Question is, however, what are the actual Mustang sales numbers?

I don't know what people are freaking out about. The Demon is FCA's answer to the Cobra Jet and the Copo Camaro. That's all. I don't think it's meant to be a road car.

Not only that, I feel like GM has been playing to the automobile magazines rather than listening to their buyers. You can see it in their advertisements, you can see it in their products. These products are created to perform well at testing rather than to inspire someone to go out and make one...

That goes to show you that regardless of performance, consumers are NOT cross-shopping the Camaro with anything but it's direct competitors. The performance chops of the Camaro are without a doubt notable, however, consumers are not opting for the Camaro over an BMW M product or the like, as GM...

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What I find hilarious is that people tend to forget perspective. I'm sure these heated arguments were happening when discussing the switch from leaded to fully unleaded gasoline as a standard. Or getting rid of the carbureted engine. Or putting ABS in cars standard. Or requiring passenger air...

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How dare you present logic and reason here! There is a time and place, and this ain't it!

Has anyone thought about the fact that more Mustangs sold = more reason for Ford to spend money improving it? Think about it, the Shelby GT350 and GT350R only became products because of the successes of the S197 platform. The S197 revived the Mustang brand in ways that gave us the Shelby GT500...

You realize Ford made the decision to build a hybrid Mustang probably years ago, correct? There is a lot of engineering that goes into determining the feasibility of new vehicles.

In addition to this, the 700 new jobs were added specifically for electrification/autonomous vehicles. The CAFE regulations and market competition drove this decision in conjunction with promises of lower tax rates. Nothing more, nothing less.

I definitely see what you're saying there, however, at face value, most consumers are going to think these vehicles are direct competitors. Even if you can option up and expensive Mustang, base for base, they're not that far off in performance or quality. Lets face it, most people are buying...

Alright, so here is the problem I see. The single greatest problem for the 6G Camaro is price. As far as the market is concerned, the S550 and the Camaro are direct competitors. No amount of boasting from Chevrolet is going to change that. The cheapest 2017 V8 Camaro within 50 miles of my zip...

It's not hate, it is friendly competition. We compare sales of all three vehicles because some people find that interesting. If you don't find it interesting, then click the "Homepage" button and find something that interests you, that's all. No need to fill your posts with expletives in a...