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Relax man. It's a mustang forum. Nothing to get worked up over. I'm messing around. I'm not sure how I belittled you. I don't think I did. And even if I did, it wasn't in the name of defending the Camaro.

ThePill is a collection of sources. No one person is ThePill. Instead this guy is ThePill's operator. When are you gonna get it right??

You'll be back. And then you'll be like:

You are not thePill. You are only thePill's operator. Do not disrespect your sources by claiming to have brought these topics to the forefront. You were given this information by your sources. Don't bite the hand that feeds.

He can do whatever he wants. He's never going to back off of the ATS thing. Best thing all sane individuals can do is let him ramble on, and not respond. The worst thing isn't for thePill to be wrong, or Chevy to dominate Ford(I'm not saying that what's happening btw). The worst thing that could...

I took "losing money" to mean negative margin. Yes they are losing money for every Z28 sold at 55K vs the ones sold at 70K. I'm just guessing that at 70K the car has some pretty good margin in there. It could be possible at 55K they're breaking even. Then again I literally have no numbers to...

What? My sh*t talk was directed at a Camaro troll. I wouldn't classify myself as a clowmaro troll. Reading comprehension man. I've never shit talked the mustang or Camaro.

He's not responding so looks like he had to boot up and nod out.

Lol Wow I'm gullible. Shoulda known. Right there with you man:thumbsup: BTW the get real part was directed towards that dude not you. And the GT350 owns the performance crown right now. Not sure how a great performing SS gives Chevy the unequivocal win in performance. I want what he's...

There loss is the consumer's gain. Also we can't know for sure what their margin's are on the car at 70K or at 55K. I'd bet it's slim if not negative at 55K but for the ones they did sell at 70K, I'd bet they made money on. IMO they shouldn't have made the CC brakes standard. They should...

This guy is a clown. I will say though, I've seen Z28s for around 56K. I know they MSRP'd in the 70k range which obviously was a mistake by GM given the # of these still hangin around on the lots. but at 56K that car is pretty sweet. Regarding GM winning the performance game, lol get real...

#1 Protégé right here.

But But But.. If you take 54% of 3724 and compare it to 52% of 3754 and add 120 lbs to the ATS-V TP rear weight and take the square root of 30% of CTS not ATS divided by alpha butt fucked by GM you can clearly see that the Camaro has to weigh 3780-3820 minimum. How else can you explain my...

Did we get any pictures/ video of the Camaro being weighed? I am skeptical as well but at this point I am inclined to believe it weighs what GM says it will. It would still be cool to see a video.

Was this one trunk junk out as well or just the grey stang?

To be fair someone said 1/8 tank of gas when it clearly is at or near empty.

I think Chevy's thinkin for now is they're going to trickle out the different models over the years to keep things fresh and always have something new to offer. The brake package is over $3K for the 2016. I'm sure 2017 or 2018 will bring a 1le package for around 3-4K that will include better...

Quick # check. I don't know how legit these #s are but this is what I found. Camaro manual is 54%F 46%R @ 3726lbs from the C&D Road Test. This is 2,012.04 lbs on the front of the car. ATS-V TP Manual is 52%F 48%R @ 3754lbs. This is 1,952.08lbs on the front of the car. I couldn't find a test...

Still need to see real world results... But if the curb weights put out by GM and shown in the mags are correct, then it is slightly lighter than the stang. The SS does have more power than the GT. It seems that the Camaro is "better" in these 2 metrics-curb weight and engine output...

You don't get it. Mustang_guy is about as pro-mustang as they come and is either neutral or almost anti-Camaro, forgive me if I'm mis-categorizing you, Mustang_guy. He's not saying working on a Camaro is easy or easier than working on a Mustang. He's saying both are tight spaces. Yes the...