OK, just for one teeny tiny second let's make beleive we are talking about 100% stock cars. Not yet, not yet, hear me out.........and remember no V8,
How it compares with the GT isn't really the point. It's how much of an improvement in performance (and feel) versus the standard Ecoboost. That will get to whether it's worth the money. With closer to peak torque available over a much greater range of RPM, the 0-60 with the A10 may be faster than a lot people expect.
Just for the sake of discussion, how much does a res delete and H-pipe cost? Divide that by the 18HP you added to your 5.0. Most untrained 'butt dynos' would not feel the difference. Again, not being critical, just devil's advocate.
$150. So $8.3/HP. Granted I very much doubt you'd get 18HP out of just that mod. 8HP would still be optimistic IMO. Anything much under 3% change and we're dancing on measurement error.
$100, but I did it for the sound. That was torque, and under the curve, so no mid to upper rpm gains. My point was people complaining that the 5.0 feels gutless down low at 340 at 3K. Wasn't really comparing the 5.0 vs 2.3, but I don't think the 2.3 is going to be the torque monster that it's being praised to be in some of these posts. I'm not a hater of the Ecoboost. In fact I prefer the 3.5 in my F-150 over the 5.0. It has intake, downpipe, catback, and a tune. It makes north of 475 torque to the wheels and pulls our 8K lb TT like an angry mule. Now with some mods and a good tune w/ the A10, the 2.3 is going to hold its own, but the top side will be limited without some serious $$$. I'm just not one who thinks it's going to be $2,500 (or even $1,600) better than the existing 2.3. We shall soon see though as these get into the right people's hands.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a27131311/2020-ford-mustang-2-3-liter-performance-package/
The handling pack should be independent of HPP. And for the price of the HPP the Handling pack should already be included. Talk about taking 2 bites out of the customer's wallet!
Not sure why you feel that, but Magneride is not cheap and worth every penny. If you don't need Grand Touring type performance, then why spend?
I was able to get an additional 70hp (awd) out of my Audi with just a 93 octane tune. With high flow catted downpipe another 20-30. Drop in filter added another 5 or so. So stage 2 90-105hp for $2k. Even more if you upgraded the cooling which this already has. Bet you can do the same with this engine. No telling what this might be capable of with a 100 octane tune.
I'm not dissing MR at all. But it's only $1600 per Ford's wildly inflated MSRP. If it costs Ford $700 a set I'd be very surprised. It's been in production for over 10 years. It's not "cutting edge" technology any more. Hell you can go buy a new pair of Dorman, AC Delco, etc. MR shocks for $600 or less for the front on the open market (Amazon, AutoZone etc). The shit Ford puts on the base Mustangs costs them $300 at the most.
I don't know what you're vaping, because it's some good sh*t. Just make sure it's not black market...
The software engineering/tuning costs more than the hardware. It is not that you can get MR cheaper, is it tuned & engineered to work with the car. No single kit offers that... You are off your rocker. Need to stop complaining about costs. MR cost the same for any Mustang, not just the HPP, you also get killer wheels and better brakes.
