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Instead of just buying what best suits my needs, I'm going to just hang around here and tell you all how much better and cooler I am for wanting a manual. :sunglasses:
Did you not read the title of this thread?
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I would definitely go for the DCT if I had to shift left handed!
When I worked in England and drove, there is no way I was going for a manual rent car. Auto all the way. I almost got into two head on collisions until I got the hang of it. When I worked in the Virgin Islands it is the same way as England, but the cars are left hand drive American cars. Even more weird.
 

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I am just adding my 2 cents if Ford looks at this.

I personally am only interested in the manual gear box. It is a bust for me.

Personally I would never buy a sports car without being able to row my own gears unless I had some type of disability and couldn’t operate a clutch.

I judge the owners of any sports cars that don’t have a manual as their choice. I also have the same problem with convertible sports cars - or as I call them - Barbie cars.

Nothing is worse to me than seeing a car that would be absolutely fun to drive and then realizing it is automatic.

I may need to seek counseling.
 

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I am just adding my 2 cents if Ford looks at this.

I personally am only interested in the manual gear box. It is a bust for me.

Personally I would never buy a sports car without being able to row my own gears unless I had some type of disability and couldn’t operate a clutch.

I judge the owners of any sports cars that don’t have a manual as their choice. I also have the same problem with convertible sports cars - or as I call them - Barbie cars.

Nothing is worse to me than seeing a car that would be absolutely fun to drive and then realizing it is automatic.

I may need to seek counseling.
Convertible sports cars... no way, for old bald men with baseball caps and girls, Automatics, for "girls". I have already seen a shrink for this same affliction. They said that there is no cure or even medication to slow up the disease. In 10 years I will only sit in my car and shift in the garage.
 

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As F1 driver, Le Mans winner, and DTM champ Hans-Joachim Stuck once drily observed to me: "Think of the three greatest racing drivers of the modern era—Aytron Senna, Michael Schumacher, and Lewis Hamilton. They all learned their car-control skills in karts, which have no transmission at all."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mo...he-911-gt2-rs-vs-porsche-911-gt3-touring/amp/

I guess these iconic drivers are just "girls".:facepalm:
 

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As F1 driver, Le Mans winner, and DTM champ Hans-Joachim Stuck once drily observed to me: "Think of the three greatest racing drivers of the modern era—Aytron Senna, Michael Schumacher, and Lewis Hamilton. They all learned their car-control skills in karts, which have no transmission at all."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mo...he-911-gt2-rs-vs-porsche-911-gt3-touring/amp/

I guess these iconic drivers are just "girls".:facepalm:
F1 cars are not sports cars.. I drove karts too and did not become an F1 driver. I became a sports car driver.
 
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I am just adding my 2 cents if Ford looks at this.

I personally am only interested in the manual gear box. It is a bust for me.

Personally I would never buy a sports car without being able to row my own gears unless I had some type of disability and couldn’t operate a clutch.

I judge the owners of any sports cars that don’t have a manual as their choice. I also have the same problem with convertible sports cars - or as I call them - Barbie cars.

Nothing is worse to me than seeing a car that would be absolutely fun to drive and then realizing it is automatic.

I may need to seek counseling.
I have no problem with my Barbies in a manual vert. Chrome wheels to boot! :shock::surprised:

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What's interesting - and somewhat surprising - to read in that article is that most of the PDK's zero to 60 advantage comes in the launch and only a little from improved shift time.

Porsche's own numbers put the six-speed GT3 six-tenths of second slower to 60 mph than the PDK version. But about four- to five-tenths of the PDK-equipped car's advantage is in the launch control, says Preuninger. The other tenth or so in the first-to-second shift.

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You missed the point.
No disrespect implied but I believe sir, that YOU have missed the point. This thread is a poll of opinion. Without saying, (like it or not) we are all entitled to our own.

With regards to your earlier post, Aytron Senna, Michael Schumacher, and Lewis Hamilton depend on their lap times to pay the bills. They race wheel to wheel in the highest performance road circuit cars available.

99.9999% of the performance car enthusiast community do not. Their/our priorities are, (on the road or track) the relationship and engagement between our guts and the guts of our machine.

It matters not how you arrive there. Whether it be by DCT, DCSTwTC, TC or manual. One's priorities may be physical engagement with the powertrain or perhaps (potentially) faster lap times. Neither are incorrect; rather, that individual drivers choice as to how he/she will arrive at his/her particular goal and/or destination.

Solo lap times and HPDE are radically different than wheel to wheel racing. In racing, the driver is the greatest variable in cars of comparable performance levels. .

With that said, an overwhelming majority of the owners of performance automobiles (including the upcoming GT500 with DCT) will never in their life, race wheel to wheel (carts excluded).

So, please explain to me, if your meal ticket does not depend on your lap time or finish position; Ford, Chevy, Porsche, AM, Ferrari, McLaren, Lamborghini or Yugo; What is the missed point?

There will always be a faster car and IMHO, personal preference can not logically be argued.
 

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No disrespect sir, But you really are slow. I DID get the point. I was using a metaphor to choose what I like. The POINT is Manual or Bust. My choice is sports car driver, meaning manual, not F1 driver meaning automatic. Jeeez
 
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What's interesting - and somewhat surprising - to read in that article is that most of the PDK's zero to 60 advantage comes in the launch and only a little from improved shift time.




Norm
To bolster Norm's post of manual vs A10, the automatic may not be faster than the manual. This was done by Randy Pobst on both cars.

Even if the automatic is faster, I still like rowing.




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There will always be a faster car and IMHO, personal preference can not logically be ignored.
Fixed, I think.


Not all karts are single speed/no transmission . . .


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This is still going? Wow. It's approaching oil thread status.
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