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Hi All,

Just over 2 years ago [MENTION=6944]zackmd1[/MENTION] has a made tutorial showing how to install the PP gauges into standard model...

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38818


To summarize 30 pages and the status of both gauges after wiring them:
  • GT & EB: The oil pressure gauge will work after a tune.

  • V6: The oil pressure gauge will work after a tune BUT the cluster will show "LOW OIL PRESSURE" error

A few days ago I found the solution to overcome the low oil pressure error on my V6....It's a very simple change in the IPC programming, took me a long time to figure it out though lol

I basically changed the as-built data bit in the IPC which controls how the IPC detects the engine oil pressure, there are 2 options - CAN and HW...all the S550s have a default option of CAN, so I simply changed it to HW and now the IPC doesn't know anything about the oil pressure therefore it's not throwing any errors.


The change I made is:
IPC As-built programming
720-02-01: XXXX XXXX X7


Big thanks to Mike from MPT for the tune file!

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Hi All,

Just over 2 years ago [MENTION=6944]zackmd1[/MENTION] has a made tutorial showing how to install the PP gauges into standard model...

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38818


To summarize 30 pages and the status of both gauges after wiring them:
  • GT: Both gauges will work without tune.

  • EB: The oil pressure gauge will work after a tune.

  • V6: The oil pressure gauge will work after a tune BUT the cluster will show "LOW OIL PRESSURE" error

A few days ago I found the solution to overcome the low oil pressure error on my V6....It's a very simple change in the IPC programming, took me a long time to figure it out though lol

I basically changed the as-built data bit in the IPC which controls how the IPC detects the engine oil pressure, there are 2 options - CAN and HW...all the S550s have a default option of CAN, so I simply changed it to HW and now the IPC doesn't know anything about the oil pressure therefore it's not throwing any errors.


The change I made is:
IPC As-built programming
720-02-01: XXXX XXXX X7


Big thanks to Mike from MPT for the tune file!

So does this mean you still need the tune if your a v6 owner?
 

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Thestangb, great summary...m still reading the 30 pages, but I also completed the swap yesterday on my EB premium without PP. I don't have a hand held tuner, but I did upload the Ford Performance Pack tune. Any thoughts how I can get a correct file update into my PCM?
TIA
 
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Thestangb, great summary...m still reading the 30 pages, but I also completed the swap yesterday on my EB premium without PP. I don't have a hand held tuner, but I did upload the Ford Performance Pack tune. Any thoughts how I can get a correct file update into my PCM?
TIA
I wouldn't know anything about the EB unfortunately but I know that somebody got it working on their car...keep reading you'll find it haha
 

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Hi All,

Just over 2 years ago [MENTION=6944]zackmd1[/MENTION] has a made tutorial showing how to install the PP gauges into standard model...

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38818


To summarize 30 pages and the status of both gauges after wiring them:
  • GT: Both gauges will work without tune.

  • EB: The oil pressure gauge will work after a tune.

  • V6: The oil pressure gauge will work after a tune BUT the cluster will show "LOW OIL PRESSURE" error

A few days ago I found the solution to overcome the low oil pressure error on my V6....It's a very simple change in the IPC programming, took me a long time to figure it out though lol

I basically changed the as-built data bit in the IPC which controls how the IPC detects the engine oil pressure, there are 2 options - CAN and HW...all the S550s have a default option of CAN, so I simply changed it to HW and now the IPC doesn't know anything about the oil pressure therefore it's not throwing any errors.


The change I made is:
IPC As-built programming
720-02-01: XXXX XXXX X7


Big thanks to Mike from MPT for the tune file!

my ecoboost IPC As-built programming
not like this:720-02-01: XXXX XXXX X7
is this data:720-02-01:6D80-3C30-1C9F(look pics)
How should I modify it?Thank you all!
 

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I hate to be that guy, but have read through all 30 pages again....

For:
"GT: Both gauges will work without tune."

specifically a 2015 GT Premium installing just PP gauges (not EB/Vac-boost gauges)...
after this 4 pin wiring:

Once you have gathered all parts you can start the install process. The wiring consists of 4 wires, all of which can be tapped into from the OEM APIM (sync) connector. 2 are power, positive can be tapped into from pin 1 on the APIM connector while ground can be pin 37( for premium owners) or pin 38 (for base model owners). The remaining 2 leads are for HS1 CAN. These can be tapped into from pin 53 for high (pin 53 APIM to pin 2 on connector) and pin 54 for low (pin 54 APIM to pin 3 on connector)

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Once complete, it still must be tuned?
Is that a dealer updated "tune"/ updated programming OR a tuner like SCT tune?

Will dealerships know how to do this, or so I need to walk them through it?

Hope this will help me and other GT's just wanting PP gauges to function...
:cheers:
 
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my ecoboost IPC As-built programming
not like this:720-02-01: XXXX XXXX X7
is this data:720-02-01:6D80-3C30-1C9F(look pics)
How should I modify it?Thank you all!
You don't need this for the EB
 
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I hate to be that guy, but have read through all 30 pages again....

For:
"GT: Both gauges will work without tune."

specifically a 2015 GT Premium installing just PP gauges (not EB/Vac-boost gauges)...
after this 4 pin wiring:




Once complete, it still must be tuned?
Is that a dealer updated "tune"/ updated programming OR a tuner like SCT tune?

Will dealerships know how to do this, or so I need to walk them through it?

Hope this will help me and other GT's just wanting PP gauges to function...
:cheers:
The GT does not need a tune for the oil pressure gauge to work, it should work after wiring the gauges
 

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The GT does not need a tune for the oil pressure gauge to work, it should work after wiring the gauges
great news. my plan then:
splice/tap
PIN 1 : APIM 1 (Power +)
PIN 2 : APIM 53 (CAN +)
PIN 3 : APIM 54 (CAN - )
PIN 4 : APIM 37 (Gnd - )

and trim center vent... anything else needed?

"My color" is controlled with the CAN signal correct?

NOTE FOR RESEARCHERS --- again this is for a 15' GT Premium
 
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great news. my plan then:
splice/tap
PIN 1 : APIM 1 (Power +)
PIN 2 : APIM 53 (CAN +)
PIN 3 : APIM 54 (CAN - )
PIN 4 : APIM 37 (Gnd - )

and trim center vent... anything else needed?

"My color" is controlled with the CAN signal correct?
That's all :)
 
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Needed,because the oil pressure is dead,and zack reply to the need:headbonk:
You need a tune to make the gauge work, you don't need the as-built data change since your cluster will not throw any errors
 

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You need a tune to make the gauge work, you don't need the as-built data change since your cluster will not throw any errors
Thank you very much!So how do I need to tuning?i have sctx4 and ucds units!
 
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Thank you very much!So how do I need to tuning?i have sctx4 and ucds units!
You need your tuner to send you a tune revision with the oil pressure enabled
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