Watch those P Zeroes...

[JohnDoe]

Winter tires wear out faster than A/Ss, plus they should be replaced at 50% tread to maintain the edge over A/Ss. And for where I live A/Ss have worked for me without issue for 30 years so not worth the extra cost.

I'm in NYC and I'm really conflicted whether I should get dedicated winters or some UHP A/S. I've always used AS my entire life, but 90% of my past vehicles were AWD. I had a Mustang in the past with A/S tires, but couldn't get it up steep'ish hills

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[RegDir]

I'm in NYC and I'm really conflicted whether I should get dedicated winters or some UHP A/S. I've always used AS my entire life, but 90% of my past vehicles were AWD. I had a Mustang in the past with A/S tires, but couldn't get it up steep'ish hills

I always throw some weight in the trunk of my RWD cars if the forecast is for snow/ice so you can try that. If you got hills to deal on a daily basis you may need winter tires.

 

[Need4SpeedMotors]

Winter tires should be used for snow and ice only if the ground is warmer and no snow on the ground, it will wear them out quickly since the material used in the compound isnt meant for that.

A good A/S is a a proper choice for those looking to rock them in a few inches of snow, ice , rain and or regular dry weather like the Conti DWS, BFG G Force Comp 2 A/S etc.

Summer tires personally only for summer or some slight rain only.

That would resolve alot of the traction issues most guys are having in the weather changes.

 

[Evolvd]

[MENTION=11685]Need4SpeedMotors[/MENTION]

Winter tires should be used for snow and ice only if the ground is warmer and no snow on the ground, it will wear them out quickly since the material used in the compound isnt meant for that.

A good A/S is a a proper choice for those looking to rock them in a few inches of snow, ice , rain and or regular dry weather like the Conti DWS, BFG G Force Comp 2 A/S etc.

Summer tires personally only for summer or some slight rain only.

That would resolve alot of the traction issues most guys are having in the weather changes.

Road and Track debunked this theory with a winter tire test a year ago. They found the winter tire compound was just as effective on clear/dry pavement with no significant increase in wear

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/videos/a5604/winter-tires-track-tested/

There are two common myths about winter tires. One is that they're only good on snow or ice. Wrong. Even where the roads are dry, you'll benefit from a rubber compound that's optimized for freezing temps. Thinking of them as "snow tires" just perpetuates the myth. The other is that having them on when there's no snow on the ground will wear them out. No way. We've run dedicated snow tires for months without seeing any snow at all.

Most importantly, at the end of a hard session of high-speed lapping, the Wintersports didn't exhibit any measurable or visible wear at all.

 

[RegDir]

[MENTION=11685]Need4SpeedMotors[/MENTION]


Road and Track debunked this theory with a winter tire test a year ago. They found the winter tire compound was just as effective on clear/dry pavement with no significant increase in wear

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/videos/a5604/winter-tires-track-tested/

"No significant increase" but by design they will wear faster than A/Ss, and more importantly, the aggressive tread that helps snow and ice traction will wear out long before you hit the indicators.

 

[Evolvd]

Did you read the article? They put those tires through some hard laps, which as most know, will wear tires a helluva lot faster than daily driving and they saw NO noticeable wear. It's not like these tires have winter tread on top and A/S tread beneath.

By design? By what design? Not sure what point you're making as A/S tires are a hard compound designed to last 30-50k miles for those granny drivers who don't care about performance...perhaps you can cite some evidence as I did to explain whatever it is you're saying?

 

[jasonstang]

It was 30° a couple of days ago and just when I thought the tires couldnt be any worse, they were! Grip was unchanged (next to nonexistant) but they were actually lumpy. Yes, lumpy, like no longer round LOL. Took about five minutes before they started to feel round and gain 1-2 psi. Definitely have to drive a lot more conservative than normal but it will be at least another month before I can do tires. New house, new furniture, new empty bank account LOL.

I think the PP summer compound is a bit different compare to the all-season ones.

 

[Need4SpeedMotors]

I think the PP summer compound is a bit different compare to the all-season ones.

yes it is.

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