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This car is looking like excellent value to me. They are getting 350 whp with tune, bolt-ons, E85--about the same power we are getting from the EB Mustang with same basic mods. Weighs 200-400 lbs less than Ecoboost Mustang. AWD and 4 door practicality. Prices are comparable. I'm a fan :thumbsup:

Mustang still looks a lot better though
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Car is boring, the FA isn't proven yet and is as scary as modifying an EJ. Trust me I know I had one for almost a year.
 

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Car is boring, the FA isn't proven yet and is as scary as modifying an EJ. Trust me I know I had one for almost a year.
modding an EJ is not scary. Ive had 4 different sti's and 1 ej255 for daily duty. None went boom. I DD an sti right now. Even when I worked as a master tech at Subaru. The vast majority of sti didn't have ring issues. I replaced more 5spds from people blowing those up then anything else.:lol:
 

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As for the OP, I would avoid the FA motors. They have DI build up as soon as 7000 miles. Enjoy paying 700-1200 to have that cleaned every 15-20k. Some cars with DI have reported being down as much as 40whp after 25k. All the mpg increase that DI brings you, itll will not make up for the cleaning costs. Infact id be willing to wager youre negative on savings. Anyone that says otherwise on Iwsti or Nasioc are morons. Infact most of them are anyway.
 

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Stay away from the subies. They're nothing but issues.
 

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Actually some time (few years ago) I liked Impreza's and Evos. Evo I would get any time of the day, if they weren't in the 30k range for a 1 or 2 year old. Impreza I used to like them, but after I seen like 20 every day at the college parking lot I was sick of them. But that's just me. And they don't make them in auto which is a con for me. If I was going to get a fast sedan in that price range I would go for an Evo, Taurus SHO or a Charger, maybe not as fuel efficient, but still good cars.
 

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This car is looking like excellent value to me. They are getting 350 whp with tune, bolt-ons, E85--about the same power we are getting from the EB Mustang with same basic mods. Weighs 200-400 lbs less than Ecoboost Mustang. AWD and 4 door practicality. Prices are comparable. I'm a fan [emoji106]

Mustang still looks a lot better though
Definitely agree. Would take it any day over EB for all the reasons above. Only thing EB is better at is the looks.
 

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Don't spread lies.
Not lies. Talk to a Subaru owner, see how much repairs they have too go through.

Don't know how much parts and maintenance cost since it's from AUS, so can't comment on that.

Plus the interiors are garbage, even the new 2015 with the "revised" interior.
Kind of upsetting when you pay 30k for a car and get a crap interior.
 

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modding an EJ is not scary. Ive had 4 different sti's and 1 ej255 for daily duty. None went boom. I DD an sti right now. Even when I worked as a master tech at Subaru. The vast majority of sti didn't have ring issues. I replaced more 5spds from people blowing those up then anything else.:lol:
Not lies. Talk to a Subaru owner, see how much repairs they have too go through.

Don't know how much parts and maintenance cost since it's from AUS, so can't comment on that.

Plus the interiors are garbage, even the new 2015 with the "revised" interior.
Kind of upsetting when you pay 30k for a car and get a crap interior.
Read my above post. I need to talk to no one. Subarus are very reliable. Its not an opinion, its my professional experience. Crap interior is subjective.:)
 

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you mean that toyota camry with a giant ass wing on the back?

eww no thanks.

the redesign is major disappointment compared to previous year....and not hatchback? gtfo subi
 

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Read my above post. I need to talk to no one. Subarus are very reliable. Its not an opinion, its my professional experience. Crap interior is subjective.:)
You're a master mechanic and I'm guessing you have pretty good job security with all these cars, I wonder why?
Any 4- banger with boost is bound to have issues. It's the sad truth, you have to worry about the turbo, AWD, and seals. IMO, they are nice looking cars, but just way too expensive for what they are.

Insurance rates SUCK on subarus, don't quote me on this but I believe they are the highest insurance cost due to the most tickets, wrecks etc... Why? Because the younger crowd LOVES subies.

The interior is pretty bland and any Subaru owner will admit it. To most wrx owners their defense is "interior doesn't matter too me". Sit in a wrx premium and and ecoboost premium and tell me which is a better cabin.

I'm not ragging on you or your cars, i just don't think they are a good purchase.
They do sound nice though! Especially the bug eyes.
 

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You're a master mechanic and I'm guessing you have pretty good job security with all these cars, I wonder why?
Any 4- banger with boost is bound to have issues. It's the sad truth, you have to worry about the turbo, AWD, and seals. IMO, they are nice looking cars, but just way too expensive for what they are.

Insurance rates SUCK on subarus, don't quote me on this but I believe they are the highest insurance cost due to the most tickets, wrecks etc... Why? Because the younger crowd LOVES subies.

The interior is pretty bland and any Subaru owner will admit it. To most wrx owners their defense is "interior doesn't matter too me". Sit in a wrx premium and and ecoboost premium and tell me which is a better cabin.

I'm not ragging on you or your cars, i just don't think they are a good purchase.
They do sound nice though! Especially the bug eyes.
Literally not true at all. Good for you if it makes you sleep better at night, but not remotely accurate.

As far as the WRX vs. EB comparison, the EB is making those numbers without the E85.
 

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Literally not true at all. Good for you if it makes you sleep better at night, but not remotely accurate.

As far as the WRX vs. EB comparison, the EB is making those numbers without the E85.
So you're saying your ecoboost with a tune(pumped to around 21-24 peak boost) can run hard and not have to worry about issues ? As the 5.0 can run hard, and not have to worry about blowing a gasket.

Like I said again, I'm NOT ragging on anyone. Small boosted motors are bound to have problems and not be as reliable as the NA counterpart. It's the biggest disadvantage to turbo motors. Now the 2.3 I believe has been proven to be fairly reliable. It's only been a year though, give them 50k plus miles and we will see the problems arise...
 

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But that is simply not true. There are multiple high mileage turbo cars out there, just look around. You need to get out more.
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