GT350 vs. Z/28

[thePill]

PP is worth it for the torsen alone.

To end ThePills argument of a Base 15 having more features than a 11 Premium GT, what does a 2011 Premium Brembo GT weigh with a FULL tank of fuel?

2011 Base GT no options Full fuel weight: 3560lbs
2015 Base GT no options full fuel weight: 3705lbs ish

My Premium Brembo GT would have weigh 3680lbs on full. The 2015 we weighed would have been almost identical once it was full and truck equipment restored.

I don't think there are many 2013-2014's that can beat that. My Premium had a manual passenger seat that was significantly lighter than the drivers side. 10-15lbs if I remember correctly.

I can't comment on the '15's standard seats. They could be 70-90lbs if the industry is a good measure. About 20-30lbs per seat... In leather...

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[DivineStrike]

15 standard seats are 50lbs


And every base 13 to 14 car can best your car in weight

 

[02gtnh]

My Premium Brembo GT would have weigh 3680lbs on full. The 2015 we weighed would have been almost identical once it was full and truck equipment restored.

I don't think there are many 2013-2014's that can beat that. My Premium had a manual passenger seat that was significantly lighter than the drivers side. 10-15lbs if I remember correctly.

I can't comment on the '15's standard seats. They could be 70-90lbs if the industry is a good measure. About 20-30lbs per seat... In leather...

The problem with your numbers is there is no proof other then what you say. Yet we have seen many here on scales showing higher weight. So in a court, who do you think people will believe? You have come up with so many scenarios to try and back your theories, yet not one has been proven. You got yourself so blinded that your right, that even with facts and proof right in front of you, you still can't believe it. It is alright to be wrong once in awhile.:cheers:

 

[thePill]

You wouldn't want the Torsen or PP-comparable brakes for your personal car?


Norm

The Torsen yes, the 34lbs, 15" front rotors that will eliminate every lightweight 18x10 Enkei? I can live without...

Once more light weighting happens, we can settle on a good 13" front rotor. As before, we can add in the Torsen later.

 

[thePill]

The problem with your numbers is there is no proof other then what you say. Yet we have seen many here on scales showing higher weight. So in a court, who do you think people will believe? You have come up with so many scenarios to try and back your theories, yet not one has been proven. You got yourself so blinded that your right, that even with facts and proof right in front of you, you still can't believe it. It is alright to be wrong once in awhile.:cheers:

...in court they would bring in the old cars and weigh them. It would lead the jury to believe that there was little difference as Terry and myself have pointed out.

We can add in additional equipment and it would be heavier.

You guys believe that the old GT weighed 3620lbs and continued to keep that weight throughout the years.

That is just not the case... Now, if a Base GT w/o a PP was ever used in any comparisons, we could say a Base car was worth mentioning.

With my own eyes, a 2015 GT was slightly lighter than my 2011. I cannot change that no matter how bad you want it to.

The equipment on the '15 was far more impressive than a Brembo Premium from 2010. I was very happy...

...and this will continue to be evident as more GT's are weighed.

15 standard seats are 50lbs


And every base 13 to 14 car can best your car in weight

Doubt it... Just Base 2014 GTPPs are around 3660-3680. The Premium weight is still unknown.

Standard seats are 50lbs, the 2011 Premium seats were 52lbs + while the passenger seat was 45lbs, maybe less. The seats are a wash somewhat, although, the 2015's are 100lbs together and the Previous Premium was 97lbs. There's 3lbs... But the rotors and calipers are a 10-15lbs gain.

I specifically cautioned optioning the Premium or Performance Pack this year if competition was the goal.

 

[thePill]

For some strange reason, the Mustang needs to take on an additional 125lbs and nearly $16,000 in order for it to be comparable to a 2011?

Why?

The standard equipment weight is heavier in the 2015. Isn't that enough? I'm just goin to remove it anyway.

FACT: Vorshlag observed a 30lbs difference between an '11 and '15, the 2015 was heavier. My 2011 was 3579lbs vs. the 2015's 3577lbs.

 

[thePill]

At a make-shift Roush presentation at a local dealer. Facebook updated with pics...

No drives today, the roads are crap and the cars were covered.

The Roush uses a similar hood height that the GT350 uses. It appears the Ped standards in the EU prevent them from styling all Mustang's this way. I would have kept the GT's lower grill openning on the top.

 

[DivineStrike]

For some strange reason, the Mustang needs to take on an additional 125lbs and nearly $16,000 in order for it to be comparable to a 2011?

Why?

The standard equipment weight is heavier in the 2015. Isn't that enough? I'm just goin to remove it anyway.

FACT: Vorshlag observed a 30lbs difference between an '11 and '15, the 2015 was heavier. My 2011 was 3579lbs vs. the 2015's 3577lbs.

What 16000?

 

[DivineStrike]

...in court they would bring in the old cars and weigh them. It would lead the jury to believe that there was little difference as Terry and myself have pointed out.

We can add in additional equipment and it would be heavier.

You guys believe that the old GT weighed 3620lbs and continued to keep that weight throughout the years.

That is just not the case... Now, if a Base GT w/o a PP was ever used in any comparisons, we could say a Base car was worth mentioning.

With my own eyes, a 2015 GT was slightly lighter than my 2011. I cannot change that no matter how bad you want it to.

The equipment on the '15 was far more impressive than a Brembo Premium from 2010. I was very happy...

...and this will continue to be evident as more GT's are weighed.



Doubt it... Just Base 2014 GTPPs are around 3660-3680. The Premium weight is still unknown

What is unknown? All the weighs are known...and there is no pp 2014

 

[02gtnh]

For some strange reason, the Mustang needs to take on an additional 125lbs and nearly $16,000 in order for it to be comparable to a 2011?

Why?

The standard equipment weight is heavier in the 2015. Isn't that enough? I'm just goin to remove it anyway.

FACT: Vorshlag observed a 30lbs difference between an '11 and '15, the 2015 was heavier. My 2011 was 3579lbs vs. the 2015's 3577lbs.

Your not comparing apples to apples. And where is the 11 weight where it's only 30lbs less then the 15?

 

[DivineStrike]

In His mind, He believes the s550 base model is as or better equipped than a a197 premium

 

[02gtnh]

In His mind he is. He believes the s550 base model is as or better equipped than a a197 premium

So he's going that route now. He's all over the place so it's hard to keep track.:cheers:

 

[Stuntman]

At a make-shift Roush presentation at a local dealer. Facebook updated with pics...

No drives today, the roads are crap and the cars were covered.

The Roush uses a similar hood height that the GT350 uses. It appears the Ped standards in the EU prevent them from styling all Mustang's this way. I would have kept the GT's lower grill openning on the top.

This is incorrect. Roush uses the OEM hood and replaces the GTs vent with a multi-louvered panel and replace the entire bumper cover with a longer nose that comes to a point lower than the factory GT grill. Thus the Roush cars shouldn't have EU compliance issues like the 350s hood.

Edit - Divine & 02gt - I'm glad to see you guys clear up misinformation since most people don't have the time and patience to challenge thePill's constant narcissistic novels on his beliefs that's filled with misinformation.

 

[DivineStrike]

So he's going that route now. He's all over the place so it's hard to keep track.:cheers:

That's how he likes to play it...He counts on that to try and convince people he is right.

The only reason I still respond is because I hate misinformation. Even If I spout misinformation...I try to correct it as soon as I realize it.

 

[02gtnh]

Nice to see someone that thinks like I do.

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