If the new s650 has a v8 hybrid, does that mean it will be more expensive to maintain?

[LSchicago]

Only reason they'll build a hybrid is to help meet c.a.f.e.
Weight and complexity won't matter.
I don't see it happening in a v8 powered car. but I see the v8 going away and the v6 turbo hybrid replacing it.
No way to keep building a v8 car in any big volume with the new cafe regs. A v8 will have to be a outside builder on paper anyways, To keep a v8 alive. it have to be for example a Roush Mustang. With a Rouch window sticker, not a ford.
My Crystall ball see's the v8 production going to that above and limited to the volume of a small vehicle producer.
the 2.7 or 3.7 dual turbo v6 being the gt and the 4 banger size shrinking and a hybrid added to it.

I don't believe the EB V6's will fit in the Mustang.

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[Vlad Soare]

It's the same basic drivetrain that's been out over 2 years on the Escape, and I've heard of no issues yet.

Two years isn't long enough to form an opinion. Ford's proper hybrid drivetrain (I mean "proper" as opposed to the mild trickery used in the Escape) has been on the market for two decades now, and it has been plagued with issues all this time. Even the current incarnation, the third, has a design fault that's very likely to cause a transmission failure at higher mileages. The transmission uses a mechanical oil pump, which is driven by the ICE. So when you drive in EV mode the transmission won't get lubricated. But it won't fail while the car is under warranty, which is all that matters for Ford.
If they haven't even got that old system right yet, then how much trust can we have in this new one?
We won't discover the faults of the "mild" hybrid system in two years. We need more time. And more miles.

 

[LSchicago]

Two years isn't long enough to form an opinion. Ford's proper hybrid drivetrain (I mean "proper" as opposed to the mild trickery used in the Escape) has been on the market for two decades now, and it has been plagued with issues all this time. Even the current incarnation, the third, has a design fault that's very likely to cause a transmission failure at higher mileages. The transmission uses a mechanical oil pump, which is driven by the ICE. So when you drive in EV mode the transmission won't get lubricated. But it won't fail while the car is under warranty, which is all that matters for Ford.
If they haven't even got that old system right yet, then how much trust can we have in this new one?
We won't discover the faults of the "mild" hybrid system in two years. We need more time. And more miles.

I remember when cars had 12 month/12,000 mile warranties, and transmissions would commonly go out within 2-3 years from new. I'm not a high mileage user, so I wouldn't be concerned at all.

 

[Vlad Soare]

I remember when cars had 12 month/12,000 mile warranties, and transmissions would commonly go out within 2-3 years from new. I'm not a high mileage user, so I wouldn't be concerned at all.

Good for you. I would, however, imagine that most people's expectations are a bit higher than that nowadays. I, for one, would be extremely upset if my gearbox failed after just three years or twelve thousand miles.

 

[LSchicago]

Good for you. I would, however, imagine that most people's expectations are a bit higher than that nowadays. I, for one, would be extremely upset if my gearbox failed after just three years or twelve thousand miles.

I would be too. Thankfully things are built much better these days.

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