You don't know? Really?
Classic skillet calling the kettle black.
Common sense has a lot to do with it.....but you seem to lack that quality. Not sure if you know but China would not let us come to the lab to investigate The origin. In fact they remodeled the lab which would make any investigation useless. That’s were the common sense part comes in.......
You want to go to war over common sense? I've been to war so I get it. Let's get emotional and send our men and women over ASAP. That is what you want, right? Okay.
Hello; Well, if I am not told by the authority then how was I to know what the reason might be? I got no notice nor message nor any anything at all about what the problem was. Am I supposed to guess as to the reason? How exactly are we members supposed to know what rule we break if we are not given a reason?
You always seem to find those types of people. It makes the mods do extra work. I don't know... I'm not a mod on this forum but I can tell you it sucks to have to moderate a forum when people are posting stuff full of misinformation.
Not really... I didn't post that much, only in spirts. And I avoided commenting on a lot of your posts since that was a waste of time. I don't remember specifically what you are speaking. Although, I do remember you posting stuff from CDC but then making comments that didn't backup what you posted (you not understanding what you were referencing). It was odd at times.
I'm not suggesting anything... only giving you information from my point of view. I could be 100% wrong about why you were banned from the thread.
This one‘s hardly worth the effort TBH.Don't worry, the four can come here... see how long this one lasts.
how many lives have been saved by the vaccines? please also explain why more people have died from the virus in the year we have had vaccines than the year without them.
a vaccine by definition prevents infection. the covid vaccines do not prevent infection.
that is not what society is based upon. even an accidental brush with human history will tell you this.
its ok you can trust me, i am in fact a geniusI'll know you as Atlas1 Shrugged, after Ayn Rand's novel. I mean this as a compliment. Some people don't like Rand; I think she was a genius. As she describes the book's theme: "The role of man's mind in existence." (To quote verbatim, I had to look that up, BTW (I'm not a genius, and quite forgetful)). But to be clear, I'm not saying you're a genius. I don't know you well enough to make such a claim. But so young (by my standards, 30ish I think you said somewhere) and skeptical of the official narrative when so many fall in lockstep to the growing Authoritarian chicanery conquering and dividing our country. It almost gives me hope for the future of our country.
i should have known one sentence about china would too much of a distraction for some. for others like @Gregs24 it provided him an excuse to avoid subjects that he is not as comfortable talking about.
if by now you don't see the fuckery that has occurred from day 1 of this there may not be any level of investigation that can convince you. would a few more videos of chinese "collapsing in the streets" help? could they have acted any more guilty from the outset? was it just sheer luck that they timed large purchases of masks and other supplies before the rest of the world knew about it? i grant that its certainly possible. would you bet money that this was not a lab leak from china? i don't know any serious person that would.
we do want to talk about it. its a discussion that is shut down constantly! any accusation of the virus coming from china or questions regarding china's behavior is met with calls of racism. or despite signs pointing to it being true, even you want results from an investigation. like anyone on here has that access. we do have common sense and when we apply it free of political correctness, it tends to point to certain likely conclusions.
you were doing much better than @Gregs24 but this post is taking you that direction.
Now gravity - that is just a left wing construct. It doesn't exist but the sheeple all believe it because big pharma and the authorities pay to shut down anybody who questions it.
Keeps people out the ICU. I knew/knew of a couple of unvaccinated people who were "healthy" to die from covid. No one vaccinated yet...
Guess when you post going to war with another country and wiping out their citizens, some might take offense.
Not sure about "fuckery". Yes, I saw the people who could have reported this were not at their post. So is the USA is partly to blame for this fuckery, as you call it? It is China... I'm not sure how a "guilty" person/administration might act.
I've seen a couple of those posts... they go off the rails quickly. When you start making racist comments, you go wrong. I'd find it hard to believe some on here could have a discussion about race and not say something totally inappropriate.
On the other you say this:
So my question is this.
that is not data. i can counter it by adding that of everyone i know and work with, the only people that have struggled with covid this year were vaccinated. 1 missed work for 6 weeks. i do not work with anyone that has missed a day of work due to covid that was unvaxxed. neither of our points offers much insight into the bigger picture.
i suggested that if this virus ends up being determined to have been from china's efforts to home grow a nasty bug, did not contain it, then gave no warning to the world, yes the consequences should be severe. seems awfully close to an act of war. the US has dropped bombs regarding bio/chem weapon programs before.........
it doesn't scream of innocence when they stay tight lipped as the virus spread in the early days. nor does it provide much faith when they don't allow inspectors in to investigate.
absolutely, that is a possibility. but a virus that escapes from a location that also houses a gain of function research center, in a country that clearly has very little regard for life on this planet, is not something that should be swept away and considered a conspiracy theory.
i have not made a racist comment on this entire forum and certainly not in this thread. i only mentioned race in the context that it is used to shut up anyone suggesting the theory of a lab leak specifically in china. many other viruses are named after the location they are believe to have originated. but for some reason this one is totally off limits and if you do point it out, the race card comes flying in.
you'll have to forgive me as i did not see any of that so i don't want to comment on it.
have you noticed the factual statements that i have repeatedly made that are simply ignored? its like pulling teeth to get anyone to respond to why the claim keeps getting made in here that the vaccines are preventing infection, despite cases going up. everyone now knows vaccinated people that have since contracted covid. the statement that they prevent infection is simply not true but has been used as a reason to push the vaccine on those who statistically are not at risk from covid, against their will. if we're going to be concerned about facts, that seems like kind of a big topic to address in a thread about the vaccine don't you think?
Hello; Trolling another member with a spin to boot. You get two false implications for the effort from one trolling post. First false implication being I got that thread closed. Second false implication being I was among those making references to African Americans.
either i'm not being clear, or you are misunderstanding the points i'm making.
no one is making my mind up for me. as stated above, i do not see the value in vaxxing EVERYONE. and threatening people for not getting it is immoral and wrong. the only talking point i see is this repeated claim that the vax prevents infection.
most of which have died SINCE the introduction of the vaccines. neither you nor anyone else has the authority to force medical treatments upon those that do not want them, especially for something that they are not at risk from.
the experts promised that the vaccines prevented infection. they were wrong. they have since updated the reason for them to being prevent severe illness. with all due respect, experts have been often about this from the beginning. we have been told there is nothing to fear from the vaccine. could the experts be wrong about this as well?
i assure you i have no tension or discomfort lol. i'm perfectly at ease with my decision to not get the shots. if i see data that makes me think the virus poses a greater risk for me i'll be the first one in line i promise you. but i will not take it under threat of force. does that fit your definition of cognitive dissonance?
