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how do you determine what's a quality filter? I just bought a AFE 5r (5 layer filter oiled) because I had a coupon to make it the same price as K&N.

I paid 50 for KN at advanced auto parts, and now 50 for the AFE. I just pulled the K&N to clean it, I forgot how much of a mess the filter was, glue lines etc all jacked up. but it does have 31 pleats, and the AFE has 26. I can see through the afe pretty easily, but it is a clean filter, the kn I can't see through as much, but its dirty, its drying now.

imo, the build quality is better on the afe, but wondering if the KN is still better. I want to figure out which is better as that will be my main filter, the other just being a spare for when the main is being cleaned and oiled.

here's KN
https://www.knfilters.com/33-5029-replacement-air-filter

here's afe
https://afepower.com/afe-power-30-10255-magnum-flow-pro-5r-air-filter#overview

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I can only find afe flow chart

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^^^ Do you care only about flow performance, or also about filtering efficiency?
 

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^^^ Do you care only about flow performance, or also about filtering efficiency?
thats what im concerned about, I can see through the afe pretty easily, I mean, to me that wouldn't be good. I did just read this, "deep open pleats" maybe its their strategy.

I was surprised how many bugs I found inside of the kn... ick. used a little plastic knife to popped them all out.

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how do you determine what's a quality filter? I just bought a AFE 5r (5 layer filter oiled) because I had a coupon to make it the same price as K&N.

I paid 50 for KN at advanced auto parts, and now 50 for the AFE. I just pulled the K&N to clean it, I forgot how much of a mess the filter was, glue lines etc all jacked up. but it does have 31 pleats, and the AFE has 26. I can see through the afe pretty easily, but it is a clean filter, the kn I can't see through as much, but its dirty, its drying now.

imo, the build quality is better on the afe, but wondering if the KN is still better. I want to figure out which is better as that will be my main filter, the other just being a spare for when the main is being cleaned and oiled.

here's KN
https://www.knfilters.com/33-5029-replacement-air-filter

here's afe
https://afepower.com/afe-power-30-10255-magnum-flow-pro-5r-air-filter#overview

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I can only find afe flow chart

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Flowrate data on K&N product page.

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Now you need to find the size of particulate each blocks, then you have the data you need.
 

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http://kandn.com/dynocharts/33-5029.pdf

stop looking 22% less than 10 microns for the K&N

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There is data on AFEs product page but it is scattered. Not seeing size data or if it is the same testing spec.
 

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Looks like the aFe is better but, without matching specifications, its a toss up, and since aFe has 4-5 grades of filters......

I know, this doesn't help at all. Good luck!

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Here;s a youtuber that compared filters:
that video makes me want a dry filter..........seriously

I doubt it really matters though for daily driving, the main debris we hit is what, bugs? those won't make ti through. I don't live in a desert, so no real fine sand.
 

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looks like AFE done copied velossa techs snorkel, releasing in April. -- it looks longer though than velossa techs. may direct into the snorkel area.
This is the part that has me wondering...

“Hassle-Free Installation:
The 54-13015S Dynamic Air Scoop fits the factory systems, as well as with aFe POWER Intake Systems. This part easily snaps into factory inlet location and requires no modification to your vehicle.”

Like after you remove the bumper?
 

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This is the part that has me wondering...

“Hassle-Free Installation:
The 54-13015S Dynamic Air Scoop fits the factory systems, as well as with aFe POWER Intake Systems. This part easily snaps into factory inlet location and requires no modification to your vehicle.”

Like after you remove the bumper?
I read that too. lmao so many people going to be mad when they buy it, open engine bay and not sure where it goes.

but.. I think the price point isn't a bad one, I mean in comarpsion.
 

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that video makes me want a dry filter..........seriously

I doubt it really matters though for daily driving, the main debris we hit is what, bugs? those won't make ti through. I don't live in a desert, so no real fine sand.
I was really suprised with how many particles the KN filter let through compared too all of the rest. Since I do live in the desert for now, I'm going to be sticking with the stock filter.
 

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I was really suprised with how many particles the KN filter let through compared too all of the rest. Since I do live in the desert for now, I'm going to be sticking with the stock filter.
not a bad idea. I could return my afe oiled one and swap for a afe 3 layer dry filter still. I will decide over night.
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