2019 Bullitt Tuner?

[The Rooster]

Hello all. New to the forum and first post. Just took delivery of my Bullitt a couple weeks ago and couldn't be happier with it. Ive owned several mustangs, corvettes and a even few camaros over the years and I honestly can't describe how impressed I am with what ford's done with the latest version of the pony car.

That said... with horsepower numbers sitting at 480 on the bullitt I can't help but have the need to see it reach 500. I understand a cold air intake and a tune is worth around 30-40hp on a (regular) gt....
Since the bullitt already has the cold air intake, and gt350 pieces Im wondering if a tuner on its own will be enough to hit that magic 500hp number?

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[The_Phantom]

Hello all. New to the forum and first post. Just took delivery of my Bullitt a couple weeks ago and couldn't be happier with it. Ive owned several mustangs, corvettes and a even few camaros over the years and I honestly can't describe how impressed I am with what ford's done with the latest version of the pony car.

That said... with horsepower numbers sitting at 480 on the bullitt I can't help but have the need to see it reach 500. I understand a cold air intake and a tune is worth around 30-40hp on a (regular) gt....
Since the bullitt already has the cold air intake, and gt350 pieces Im wondering if a tuner on its own will be enough to hit that magic 500hp number?

Congratulations on your purchase!

I would think I good tune could get you close, but remember....you're kissing your warranty goodbye.

 

[The Rooster]

Ive had tunes in previous cars with good results, and never had an issue with warranty... I did remove the tune if they went back to the dealership though.... I guess the other thing to consider is that I haven't had a complete engine failure either that would cause anyone to look for evidence of tunes in the ecu.
I do intend to keep this car original, so any serious mods (ie supercharger) won't be installed. maybe a resonator delete but Im not even sure that's necessary.... it sounds pretty wicked on track mode as it is.
I just figured if there was a easy 20+ hp to be found without even opening the hood it would be hard to pass up on.

 

[sdiver68]

Maybe. The cold air intake and GT350 manifold have already been proven to not make much if any over the standard 2018+ GT. With a tune, sure...but the ecu logs all tunes. IMHO, if you want a modest gain and keep no questions asked warranty maybe wait for the Ford powerpack for the 18+.

 

[Hivel]

An E85 tune will push you way over 500 wheel. A 93 octane tune should be close to 500.

Cheers,

 

[Hivel]

IMHO, if you want a modest gain and keep no questions asked warranty maybe wait for the Ford powerpack for the 18+.

The Bullet rig is the 18+ GT power pack. Look at the 17- GT power pack 3; the Bullet already has that stuff. Except for the 93 octane tune. But, I doubt Ford will offer a tune only for the Bullet. It’s just too small a market.

Cheers,

 

[tj@steeda]

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Best Regards,

TJ

 

[sdiver68]

The Bullet rig is the 18+ GT power pack. Look at the 17- GT power pack 3; the Bullet already has that stuff. Except for the 93 octane tune. But, I doubt Ford will offer a tune only for the Bullet. It’s just too small a market.
Cheers,

Nope, the Bullit rig is a tie to history. As I stated, its proven the GT350 manifold does not make any power vs the 2018 manifold. The 2018 already has fresh air and people are not getting good results with a CAI only.

The consensus seems to be same power, different marketing, slower car versus 10R80. In other words, look at your options for power on the 2018+ and go from there.

 

[Hivel]

Nope, the Bullit rig is a tie to history.

Maybe we can agree to disagree?
None of the Bullet’s power parts are ties to Bullet history. They are all borrowed from the GT350. Except for the throttle actuator and cut down open air box; they are the same parts used in the 17- GT power packs.

Although, I kinda hope I’m wrong and Ford releases a low profile CobraJet manifold for the 18+ GTs. But, that would make too much sense.

Cheers,

 

[AmericanV8Guy]

We can get you into the Steve McQueen Edition Steeda Mustang

http://www.steedavehicles.com/#/stevemcqueeneditionbullittmustang/

Check out the details above our email them at [email protected] or call 754-800-4165.

Best Regards,

TJ

That's quite the neat package! If I owned a 19 Bullitt, I would strongly consider it. I think the letter of authenticity is honestly what really sells it, otherwise it would be a shame to modify a signature car like the Bullitt.

 

[sdiver68]

Maybe we can agree to disagree?
None of the Bullet’s power parts are ties to Bullet history. They are all borrowed from the GT350. Except for the throttle actuator and cut down open air box; they are the same parts used in the 17- GT power packs.

Although, I kinda hope I’m wrong and Ford releases a low profile CobraJet manifold for the 18+ GTs. But, that would make too much sense.

Cheers,

You can agree or not, what I'm saying is if you are looking for 20hp look at what makes 20hp on a 2018+ GT. Have you seen the recent manifold dyno test results between the 18, 18 ported, GT350, F150 and Cobra Jet?

If you like the change in sound, look at long tube headers/exhaust. In conjunction consider porting your GT350 manifold and you should get the HP gain you are looking for.

 

[The Rooster]

Im not sure where I read it but the Bullitt apparently makes more power... or rather there is no drop off in power... from 7000-7500 rpm than the standard GT. I find it hard to believe that the GT350 manifold does nothing to contribute to that and/or to the additional 20hp over the base car... Why would Ford install it? did these dyno tests use the manifold, throttle body and intake? or were they just swapping manifolds?

 

[sdiver68]

They switched manifolds and ran them back-to-back-to-back.

Prior dyno tests with many people have switched intakes and TB's. Results are within the margin of error of the dyno. It's also been well established that 460hp on the 18+GT is underrated by about 20hp. If what I'm saying is wrong, a bunch of people would have jumped in instantly and corrected me. Trust me I wish there were nice gains to be had on simple things more like the 15-17! So does the aftermarket!

Why would Ford add those parts? Marketing!

 

[The Rooster]

Not here to argue but... Are you suggesting that the 18-19 GT gives up nothing to the Bullitt? With a significantly upgraded induction system? Stock to stock the combination of intake, TB and manifold are going to add up to a hp increase.
Dyno tests on cars with headers, tunes, throttle body, etc aren't going to be an accurate way to determine the gains tuned in by the factory.

Ive also seen more than once that both the GT and Bullitt are under rated because the actual power output of the gen 3 coyote is too close to the gt350s 526hp.

This isn't a "mine is better than yours" post. I actually had a pp2 gt on order when this bullitt came available to me.

 

[Hivel]

Have you seen the recent manifold dyno test results between the 18, 18 ported, GT350, F150 and Cobra Jet?

Yep.
Don’t get stuck on the peak numbers and notice the tune was not optimized for each manifold. Look at the area under the curve and consider the system used for the test. I think the results would be more significant if the test system was a Bullet. Then you would have seen how restrictive the stock 2018 manifold is. The ported 2018 is nice; but, it rolls off too early.

My goal is to optimize the area under the curve from 6000 to 7700 RPM. At this moment it seems the Cobra Jet CAI/intake/throttle and E85 is the best combo available off the shelf. Yes, a tune is required for that combo to work.

Look at Steeda’s McQueen Bullet package. The base package (now after my initial post) includes a CAI and tune that Steeda claims will give 500 crank HP (+20 over stock Bullet). But, Steeda hasn’t offered that to the owners of stock Bullets.

Cheers,

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