93 OCTANE TUNE ADDS 50WHP!

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Livernois has an amazing tune that will really wake up your mustang gt! Utilizing our 93 octane performance tuning, you can see power gains up to 50 wheel horsepower over stock, and 43 additional Ft. Lbs of torque! If this product is interesting to you and you would like some more information do not hesitate to give me a call at 313-561-5500 extension 104, my name is Cody and ill be glad to assist you!

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[jcart953]

Curious do you tune off the Sct or Ngauge?

 

[Eritas]

356/344 at the wheels stock is a bit weak IMO.

It's easy to see huge gains when the baseline number is rather low. Not saying your product is bad (as it makes roughly the same power as any other tune out there) but seems a bit deceiving to advertise huge gains when clearly the baseline number is at best "fudged with".

Agreed. I'd like to see more stock GT dynos from them to see if their Dyno really does read 20-30whp lower than most Dynojets.

Edit - hmm. 408whp "tuned" (+13whp) on a stock 2015 GT back in December of 2014:

http://www.fordnxt.com/news/video-livernois-cranks-up-the-power-on-the-2015-ford-mustang/

Vs OP:

Normally the HP peaks then falls after 6,500RPM. Initial impression is that baseline pull looks a bit funny.

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[DarkestHour]

I mean it's not like vendors would purposely use cherry picked dyno charts to try and sell their product right?

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

So out of curiosity, what are the options for 92 octane (highest available here) or is it essentially still a 93 octane tune for those who run on 92?

If you do tune specifically for 92 octane do you have dyno data you can share?

We have a 91 octane tune which is fairly close to the 93 octane tune which is what we would give you, you can run higher fuel then what we tune for you just cant run 87 octane on a 91 tune

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

Using 87 octane when driving over 30k miles a year saves hundreds of dollars a year. I don't need high performance when sitting in traffic during my commute. I want to high performance when I want it to use it.

Sorry but I don't see the need for a couple extra horsepower when I'm commuting. Doubt that will help me more when merging on the freeway. My commute isn't filled with exotics trying to cut me off.

Not to mention many states, like AZ, only have 91 octane max available.

Until there is a solid tune that plays nice with 87, I won' even consider it. Why throw away money? (rhetorical question)

We do offer an 87 octane tune but it just increases MPG and transmission shift points which may still interest you

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

I'd vouch for Livernois.

Thank you, we always appreciate the support of our customers and community!

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

It costs me a whopping $3 more per fill up to use 93 instead of 87. I get gas once a week, so over a year it would be less than $200. Stop getting the grande starbucks with caramel and whip cream once a week and you save double that a year.

@Livernois, does this tune work well with "winter blend" gas? I am torn between the Ford PP2 which saves the warranty and a custom tune so I don't have to deal with the no-lift strategy.

It runs just perfect with the winter blend fuel, so no issue there!

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

Curious do you tune off the Sct or Ngauge?

No we do not, we use everything of our own

 

[BmacIL]

Agreed. I'd like to see more stock GT dynos from them to see if their Dyno really does read 20-30whp lower than most Dynojets.

Edit - hmm. 408whp "tuned" (+13whp) on a stock 2015 GT back in December of 2014:

http://www.fordnxt.com/news/video-livernois-cranks-up-the-power-on-the-2015-ford-mustang/

Vs OP:

Normally the HP peaks then falls after 6,500RPM. Initial impression is that baseline pull looks a bit funny.

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A couple critiques:

1. Dec of '14. I'm sure no improvements have been made in nearly 3 years /s. Now, I'm not claiming the gains have or could have tripled+, but the Ver 11 tune in my car is making far more than 13 whp more than stock, particularly in the mid-range.

2. The baseline pull and after pull both have the HP/TQ cross at 5250, as they should. The baseline also hits its plateau at 6500, as it should. Why it wasn't taken to the 7000 hard cut-off I don't know, other than the fact that the stock tune cuts fuel hard and could make for undesirable behavior on the dyno with a giant rolling wheel under the car.

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

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[Eritas]

A couple critiques:

1. Dec of '14. I'm sure no improvements have been made in nearly 3 years /s. Now, I'm not claiming the gains have or could have tripled+, but the Ver 11 tune in my car is making far more than 13 whp more than stock, particularly in the mid-range.

2. The baseline pull and after pull both have the HP/TQ cross at 5250, as they should. The baseline also hits its plateau at 6500, as it should. Why it wasn't taken to the 7000 hard cut-off I don't know, other than the fact that the stock tune cuts fuel hard and could make for undesirable behavior on the dyno with a giant rolling wheel under the car.

I get the sarcasm.

I hate it when shops hide the SAE/STD/Smoothing & RPM from a dyno sheet.

It would make sense that the 2014 pull was listed in STD (4% higher reading). That would put the baseline at 379.71whp and the 'tune' at 392.14whp - for a 12.43whp gain. That's right in line with what a GT typically makes and it's in line with your gains. It also further shows evidence that the 356whp baseline is a bit doctored and not just 'because our dyno reads low', when back in 2014 a GT made the same as most Dynojets.

But lets give them the benefit of the doubt, and they changed dynos since 2014 and their new dyno does read low. Are you telling me that on most dynos that make 380whp stock, with your tune, i'm going to now make 430whp?

 

[ypena02]

I get the sarcasm.

I hate it when shops hide the SAE/STD/Smoothing & RPM from a dyno sheet.

It would make sense that the 2014 pull was listed in STD (4% higher reading). That would put the baseline at 379.71whp and the 'tune' at 392.14whp - for a 12.43whp gain. That's right in line with what a GT typically makes and it's in line with your gains. It also further shows evidence that the 356whp baseline is a bit doctored and not just 'because our dyno reads low', when back in 2014 a GT made the same as most Dynojets.

But lets give them the benefit of the doubt, and they changed dynos since 2014 and their new dyno does read low. Are you telling me that on most dynos that make 380whp stock, with your tune, i'm going to now make 430whp?

This is why I prefer real world 1/4 mile numbers. Livernois had no problem doing track testing with their EcoBoost tune.

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Do the same for the GT :cheers:

 

[SiMuL]

I get the sarcasm.

I hate it when shops hide the SAE/STD/Smoothing & RPM from a dyno sheet.

It would make sense that the 2014 pull was listed in STD (4% higher reading). That would put the baseline at 379.71whp and the 'tune' at 392.14whp - for a 12.43whp gain. That's right in line with what a GT typically makes and it's in line with your gains. It also further shows evidence that the 356whp baseline is a bit doctored and not just 'because our dyno reads low', when back in 2014 a GT made the same as most Dynojets.

But lets give them the benefit of the doubt, and they changed dynos since 2014 and their new dyno does read low. Are you telling me that on most dynos that make 380whp stock, with your tune, i'm going to now make 430whp?

I'm with you on this one. My stock 2015 GT (no mods at all) makes 394/372 on a DynoJet here in Houston (PSI Motorsports). Granted, mine dynos a little higher than most stockers. The other bone stock cars dyno'd closer to 380 that day.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything, of course, just pointing out my concern with how low that base dyno is.

 

[BmacIL]

I get the sarcasm.

I hate it when shops hide the SAE/STD/Smoothing & RPM from a dyno sheet.

It would make sense that the 2014 pull was listed in STD (4% higher reading). That would put the baseline at 379.71whp and the 'tune' at 392.14whp - for a 12.43whp gain. That's right in line with what a GT typically makes and it's in line with your gains. It also further shows evidence that the 356whp baseline is a bit doctored and not just 'because our dyno reads low', when back in 2014 a GT made the same as most Dynojets.

But lets give them the benefit of the doubt, and they changed dynos since 2014 and their new dyno does read low. Are you telling me that on most dynos that make 380whp stock, with your tune, i'm going to now make 430whp?

I'm assuming that the average across most GTs is around 370 whp. I would expect that if I threw my car on a dyno today I'd be around 400 whp. This is not unreasonable for Tune+Intake+Catback even on a Mustang Dyno.

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