Almost 60K for Loaded 2018 GT

[CompOface]

This whole thread confuses me. So many complaints in many threads about how the interior plastics feel cheap, the MT transmission is notchy, panel gaps and mis-alignments (agreed this is unacceptable on the scale that it is), cheap vinyl/leather on premium, on and on. Everyone wants $60-80k build quality on their car with a $40k sticker (yes this ranges on build but it seems like this is the ballpark on most '15 - '17 cars, my premium PP '15 stickered a touch under $40k). Obviously you could have gone higher than $40k fully optioned. Well your wishes were granted... and the price went up because well better quality and materials costs the all mighty $$$.

Now many are pissed at the new price. I'm all for the motor upgrades, need to keep the 5.0's pedigree alive and well, but Ford should have drawn the line there in my mind and kept the price closer to $40k for a premium PP car with no other options. Option it from there if you like, but that price point is accessible performance for most people if they are willing to live with one 1 car. For the same build as my '15 you are pushing $44k, which is pushing out of a value performance price point IMO. While I think a heavy optioned price pushing $50-$60k for a mustang is insane... you got what you asked for! Well at least I hope you did, very curious to see the personal experiences on here as the '18 start getting into peoples hands.

Also the fully optioned '15-'17 price compared to fully optioned '18 price is not apples to apples at all. Magride not an option previously, 10 spd is a whole different animal than the 6 spd auto, PP package with better tires than previous, MT rework, on and on.

So is a hopefully the new 10 spd auto or non-notchy MT transmission (personally I have no issues with how my '15 MT feels... its a $40k performance car so the transmission shouldn't feel like I'm driving a Porsche lol), some nicer feeling interior bits, and all the mechanical upgrades worth the big price jump? Seems like mods could make up for any "shortcomings" you find with the car and still be under the asking price of the '18's.

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[airfuel]

"It's ugly!, It's expensive!" How do I retrofit all the new goodies to my old car?

People like to complain...human nature and a case of sour grapes.

That's why I have always thought a sub forum should exist for the 2018.

 

[thet33]

"It's ugly!, It's expensive!" How do I retrofit all the new goodies to my old car?

People like to complain...human nature and a case of sour grapes.

That's why I have always thought a sub forum should exist for the 2018.

Nobody has asked about retrofitting the ugly part....

 

[xDUMPWEEDx]

Not to mention maintenance. I've been struggling with what vehicle to get next. I really like the BMW M2 but then I want to just get a GT350 which would likely be cheaper up front and in the long run.

In that price range you have to go GT350.

 

[AlmostFamous]

 

[AlmostFamous]

I'm glad the MSRP is higher. Keeps the resale value of the 2015-2017 higher. Within a year, the 2018+ models will have steep discounts. I got my base model Mustang GT $27,400 brand new summer 2016 and I remember everyone heckling about the Mustang GT starting at $35k during 2014.

 

[Norm Peterson]

That's what Ford calls it, let's just let it go at that ...

I might be persuaded to go along with that if 'Sports Car' had been a term of Ford's creation. Or of Chevy's creation, for that matter. But it wasn't an industry term, let alone something that came from either of them. If it belongs to anybody, it'd be the London Times (back when the news media didn't have nearly as much editorial slant as it does today).

Re-inventing it now does nobody any favors in the long run, and capitulating to the whims of Ford's (and others') advertising and the marketing-oriented organizations surrounding them would be a case of silence equaling agreement with it.


Norm

 

[Cgocifer]

Just don't order all the B.S. mine should come in around $42k with PP1 and about $44k with PP2. GT with 301A, variable exhaust, and PP1 or 2 depending. I'll spend another 4 grand on shocks/struts, wheels and tires. Install myself. Still under 50k for a lightly customized new car that can do zero to sixty in 4 seconds ish. How is that not a good deal in today's market? Hell, my pick up truck cost $49k and doesn't have leather interior... lol my wife's 4runner cost $46k.

 

[Cgocifer]

Right, but:

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  2018 std equipment > 2016 std equipment

• 2018 5.0 > 2016 5.0

• 10 speed > 6 speed

It would be one thing if the 2018 was to the 2017 as the 2017 was to the 2016, but it's not. It's changed enough to basically be a new gen. One could argue much of the value for the price is still great, all things considered (improvements you get out of the gate with a 2018 include: better/more efficient (TBD) motor, better trans, LED lighting (superior to HID), standard back up sensors). The only pricing change that was completely absurd was the increase in PP, and the 401A packaging group change-up.

Yup and we're only talking 3 grand for more refinement, more power, etc. If you are buying a 40-50k dollar car, 3 grand is like 20 bucks a month if you finance it. Just wait and buy one used, no biggie. I plan to be placing my order asap once I know more about the PP2. ;-)

 

[AlmostFamous]

Just don't order all the B.S. mine should come in around $42k with PP1 and about $44k with PP2. GT with 301A, variable exhaust, and PP1 or 2 depending. I'll spend another 4 grand on shocks/struts, wheels and tires. Install myself. Still under 50k for a lightly customized new car that can do zero to sixty in 4 seconds ish. How is that not a good deal in today's market? Hell, my pick up truck cost $49k and doesn't have leather interior... lol my wife's 4runner cost $46k.

You can get a brand new base Corvette for those prices!

 

[Jon|3.7]

should of done more with the v6 lmao.

 

[TomcatDriver]

I might be persuaded to go along with that if 'Sports Car' had been a term of Ford's creation. Or of Chevy's creation, for that matter. But it wasn't an industry term, let alone something that came from either of them. If it belongs to anybody, it'd be the London Times (back when the news media didn't have nearly as much editorial slant as it does today).

Re-inventing it now does nobody any favors in the long run, and capitulating to the whims of Ford's (and others') advertising and the marketing-oriented organizations surrounding them would be a case of silence equaling agreement with it.


Norm

Many people more articulate than we have debated the topic. Some are purists like you and want to stay true to the original definition. I am more pragmatic. After all, it's a word that was made up just under 100 years ago when automobiles were barely getting started. It's a term that has evolved over time along with automobiles in general. Ford certainly didn't start any changes to the definition, only following suit with pretty much every other manufacturer and consumer out there other than a few stodgy magazine writers.

 

[millhouse]

Yup and we're only talking 3 grand for more refinement, more power, etc. If you are buying a 40-50k dollar car, 3 grand is like 20 bucks a month if you finance it. Just wait and buy one used, no biggie. I plan to be placing my order asap once I know more about the PP2. ;-)

Funny, the last time there was a mid cycle refresh engine change the bump in price was $2100 (2010-2011). Of course, the horsepower bump was nearly 100hp. Do you still think that $3k is a deal...considering a tune and CAI yields the same power on the current gen?

 

[TomcatDriver]

Yup and we're only talking 3 grand for more refinement, more power, etc. If you are buying a 40-50k dollar car, 3 grand is like 20 bucks a month if you finance it. Just wait and buy one used, no biggie. I plan to be placing my order asap once I know more about the PP2. ;-)

$3000 is $3000, how you plan on financing is immaterial. It's also interesting to see how a Mustang is a $26K car when people complain about body panels, but a $2-3K base price jump is no biggie for a $45K car.

To be objective, the base price jump is about 6%. That might not seem too bad for an extra 25HP, but really you should be looking at the MSRP from 2015. Inflation has been in the 1% range the past 4 years, so we are really looking at $4K+ jump in base during a time inflation was in the 0-1% range. When you add the optioning schemes you end up in a price increase far more than that. We have yet to see any reason for the 33% increase in the PP.

 

[TheReaper]

Funny, the last time there was a mid cycle refresh engine change the bump in price was $2100 (2010-2011). Of course, the horsepower bump was nearly 100hp. Do you still think that $3k is a deal...considering a tune and CAI yields the same power on the current gen?

A tune and CAI will not make 17 equal to an 18 performance wise.

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